Originally posted by JakeTheBankAt least he admits the only reason he died was he wanted to which is painfully clear anyways. If he doesn't want to go away he doesn't and that's the only reason Thor killed him because he allowed it.
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I had to read over that to understand it. If Reynolds has no control overhimself, how can he have control over himself and allow himself to die?
I think what happened was that Reynolds wanted to die. Void took over and attacked the heroes. The Thor killed the Void and Bob's lack of will to come back kept him a skeleton.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
By that same logic, it took a team to beat Thor, just like it took a team to beat Void. I still don't get why people think that's some kind of low showing for Thor. Hell, Sentry, frankly, has far more embarassing showings.
Yea, like being beaten by the same Human Torch Thor one shotted.
Seriously, the Vector alone reduced the Hulk to a near skeletal state, and if I have my continuity right, this was before the healing factor retcon and the Hulk still had Superman level durability.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWhen his life had to be saved he lost the fight. He was about to be killed and there was nothing he could do on his own at that point to prevent it.
Smacking Thor around? You mean Osborn doing a flying punch at Thor right after he was blasted by his full power along with that of Vector, Moonstone, X-ray, Magma? Thor doesn't weight that much (650 pounds I believe.) and physics just took effect.According to you, Thor never lost in that fight.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
By that same logic, it took a team to beat Thor, just like it took a team to beat Void. I still don't get why people think that's some kind of low showing for Thor. Hell, Sentry, frankly, has far more embarassing showings.
sentry has a crap load of bad showing...void on the other hand has zero to my knowledge...the only one he has ever lost to has been himself(sentry)
Originally posted by quanchi112
At least he admits the only reason he died was he wanted to which is painfully clear anyways. If he doesn't want to go away he doesn't and that's the only reason Thor killed him because he allowed it.
He also crushes the delusion that Void was as powerful as he said he was and pretty much confirms he never had the same kind of power Molecule Man did.
Void's sustained existence hinges on Bob's mental state and willpower. There's no reason to believe that in a forum match, he can't take enough damage to be reduced to his Bob state and killed either directly then, or be killed off when he Void's out and stay dead.
And hell, it's been shown that that the Voidforce or whatever it is that is the source of his powers isn't infinite nor has it been shown to literally be on the level of number of exploding suns. He's been burned out and outright drained of power before Siege. And while he wasn't Void, his power source remained the same and there's no reason to believe that he's immune to it in a forum match.
so how did he beat MM then?...does he really just have some kind of divine power or something?
there is no reason he should be able to rape MM like that....without some kind of crazy power...and bendis said he might or he might not have those powers...we really dont kno cuz he crazy...either way...void/sentry stomp MM...so it make him above him
Originally posted by JakeTheBankWe saw him beat Mm on panel so it leads me to believe he has that power as they defeated the Mm through his aid on panel. he says he's nuts and never states it didn't happen so I go with what I read on panel until someone says definitively no.
He also crushes the delusion that Void was as powerful as he said he was and pretty much confirms he never had the same kind of power Molecule Man did.Void's sustained existence hinges on Bob's mental state and willpower. There's no reason to believe that in a forum match, he can't take enough damage to be reduced to his Bob state and killed either directly then, or be killed off when he Void's out and stay dead.
Only all his prior appearances and the fact a team caused all this damage not Thor. No way can Thor sustain a matchup long enough to jar him loose even if this were to reoccur.
Void stomps him just like I said and the creator agreed he only lost because he allowed it. I was right when I interpreted this and all Thor fans were dead wrong.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthat's what i'm saying
And hell, it's been shown that that the Voidforce or whatever it is that is the source of his powers isn't infinite nor has it been shown to literally be on the level of number of exploding suns. He's been burned out and outright drained of power before Siege. And while he wasn't Void, his power source remained the same and there's no reason to believe that he's immune to it in a forum match.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankBecause of his mindset it was rammed home in siege he has no limits by other characters such as norman, skrulls, etc. The only reason he powered down against WW Hulk like I said was because he wanted to lose as he lost control.
And hell, it's been shown that that the Voidforce or whatever it is that is the source of his powers isn't infinite nor has it been shown to literally be on the level of number of exploding suns. He's been burned out and outright drained of power before Siege. And while he wasn't Void, his power source remained the same and there's no reason to believe that he's immune to it in a forum match.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And hell, it's been shown that that the Voidforce or whatever it is that is the source of his powers isn't infinite nor has it been shown to literally be on the level of number of exploding suns. He's been burned out and outright drained of power before Siege. And while he wasn't Void, his power source remained the same and there's no reason to believe that he's immune to it in a forum match.
i dont think so man...sentry and void dont use anywhere near the same powers....using wwh incident at this time really is valid at all
Originally posted by psycho gundam
they stated the void was *giggles* the god of the old testement's power.no joke
Maybe he is the god of the old testament, except for the omnipotence part that is and there being only one god. So in essence, there is a god of the old testament and Thor went toe to toe with him. Ha!
Originally posted by BadabingHe means the Void(the competent side) doesn't have any bad showings while the sentry does because he's always plagued by his own gripping fears but weirdly the Sentry was always the only person who could defeat the Void because surprise surprise he's the same person.
Stop speaking in riddles!!!!11 durznuts
He's still a very confusing character the creators have purposely left vague and open for interpretation.
Originally posted by psycho gundamNo, I have said this from the start the scene was easy to comprehend and those who wanted to act like that's not what the scene meant were people who hated the Sentry or loved Thor.
aka, the only reason you can come up with to support your stance that sentry can't lose unless he feels like it
Only a fool or hater would believe that blast could defeat the sentry with all the buildup and ignore Bob's personality weakening him and wishing for death immediately beforehand.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We saw him beat Mm on panel so it leads me to believe he has that power as they defeated the Mm through his aid on panel. he says he's nuts and never states it didn't happen so I go with what I read on panel until someone says definitively no.Only all his prior appearances and the fact a team caused all this damage not Thor. No way can Thor sustain a matchup long enough to jar him loose even if this were to reoccur.
Void stomps him just like I said and the creator agreed he only lost because he allowed it. I was right when I interpreted this and all Thor fans were dead wrong.
Bendis flat out said he didn't. "I think we've all met crazy people in our lives, and I think you learn pretty quickly that when you're dealing with a crazy person, you can't trust what they're saying to be true. Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn't mean that he actually did. He just thought that he did." Void says a lot of things. He said he was God. He said he was Galactus. He's crazy as shit and not to be trusted.
A team? Some repulsor rays and shield tosses and a helicarrier explosion did damage aside from Thor. All of which, accumulatively, Thor can do on his own in spades. To deny that Thor on his own can't unleash that same kind of firepower when he has in the past is short sighted. We all know that if you place a Top tier on a team, he's going to be jobbed out/lowballed to make the rest of the team useful. Superman is treated the same way in the JLA.
Void lost because he got tired of living his crappy life. He wanted to die and couldn't do it himself. Sounds like a loss no matter how much you want to dress it up.
well bendis said they influence eachother alot...if it is only sentry acting he cries and runs like a sissy...if he has some void personality in him he does bad ass shit like rip carnage in half....same with void full void is just crazy and wants to kill things...void with some sentry personality saves lindy and asks to be killed cuz he realizes what he as done.
all in all bob is crazy
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bendis flat out said he didn't. "I think we've all met crazy people in our lives, and I think you learn pretty quickly that when you're dealing with a crazy person, you can't trust what they're saying to be true. Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn't mean that he actually did. He just thought that he did." Void says a lot of things. He said he was God. He said he was Galactus. He's crazy as shit and not to be trusted.A team? Some repulsor rays and shield tosses and a helicarrier explosion did damage aside from Thor. All of which, accumulatively, Thor can do on his own in spades. To deny that Thor on his own can't unleash that same kind of firepower when he has in the past is short sighted. We all know that if you place a Top tier on a team, he's going to be jobbed out/lowballed to make the rest of the team useful. Superman is treated the same way in the JLA.
Void lost because he got tired of living his crappy life. He wanted to die and couldn't do it himself. Sounds like a loss no matter how much you want to dress it up.
bendis also said we dont kno if he has the same powers or not...he was just explaining how crazy sentry was