Thor vs Void Sentry

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/1196085-siege_03__thostew_megan__pg18_super.jpg

No one's denying that Void took the advantage once he almost fully manifested.

Still think Thor's shock/surprise is what gave him the opening.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
and then destroyes Asgard

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35192/1336043-siege_4__3__super.jpg

Why was Thor so against blocking/defending during Siege? Roger's is clearly able to defend himself by hiding behind his shield. I know Siege was a team focused event but common Bendis. Force fields are one of Mjolnir's most used abilities.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And after this Thor was mysteriosly able to kill him...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1351071-thor_vs_sentry_08_super.jpg

"It had to be done."

Originally posted by Parmaniac
EDIT:
As for the serums
http://i.newsarama.com/images/drkaven013_int_0006-7.jpg

It's not really an amp iirc it's a drug for him.

I'm gonna have to re-read Dark Avengers.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I actually recall the others heroes doing absolutely nothing outside of the Avenger's Trinity.

Captain America throws his shields at Void twice, and Iron Man shots him in his antique armor. And then sends the Hellacarrier at him, after Thor got him into the field and hit him with lightning. But I think most of the others were fighting the ARMY assembled against Asgard. In fact, this conversation is from Siege #2:

NICK FURY: Do you guys remember the Sentry?

HELLFIRE: Sure.

NICK FURY: You do not engage him.

QUAKE: Even me?

NICK FURY: Even you. You engage that maniac and you’re dead. You’re ripped in half.

STONEWALL: Then how on earth are we going to win this thing?

NICK FURY: Let Thor worry about that.

I think that shows most characters weren't fighting Sentry.

Forgot about that little convo.

I still have the bio/guide released before Siege where Thor is stated to be equal to Sentry in power by Norman and/or his assistant. Quan loves bios.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Again, Thor doesn't kill people under normal circumstances, so when he sees even Bob himself wants to die, or at the very least sees there's no other choice, Thor finally caves in and does what he has to do.

But aren't the serums what give him his power?

Pretty sure Bendis himself confirmed that Bob had the last "say" in his defeat. Desnt really take anything away from Thor seeing how Void was taken apart on molecular level and even erased from the time stream before and still came back. Dont see why you guys believe that lightning bolt would've worked any better.

The serum was said to give him his powers in the first origin, it was said to be false. Its just some grug for him.

This is so easy.

Thor > Hellicarrier > Void

Originally posted by SamZED
TBH Its not the permission. If Thor could've killed him earlier he would've, there was nothing different about that last lightning, Thor already tried to destroy Void's body. The problem is- even that wouldnt put him down for good.

Pretty sure Bendis himself confirmed that Bob had the last "say" in his defeat. Desnt really take anything away from Thor seeing how Void was taken apart on molecular level and even erased from the time stream before and still came back. Dont see why you guys believe that lightning bolt would've worked any better.

The serum was said to give him his powers in the first origin, it was said to be false. Its just some grug for him.

Bendis flat out said Thor wouldn't have killed him earlier, so if we are going to take Bendis's word that Sentry had the last say, we also have to accept that Thor wasn't even going to try to kill him until the last moment.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Why was Thor so against blocking/defending during Siege? Roger's is clearly able to defend himself by hiding behind his shield. I know Siege was a team focused event but common Bendis. Force fields are one of Mjolnir's most used abilities.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Bendis flat out said Thor wouldn't have killed him earlier, so if we are going to take Bendis's word that Sentry had the last say, we also have to accept that Thor wasn't even going to try to kill him until the last moment.

Originally posted by SamZED
Fair enough. But how does it make a difference then? Lets assume that he wanted to kill him and went all out at the beginning of the fight, used that lightning bolt.. do you believe it would've permanently killed Bob like it did in the end of the story? Seeing how the core of the sun/erasing with magic/mlecular manipulation didnt?

I agree with you for the most part. (But keep in mind, Thor has survived being in the core of the sun too). But Thor has other options to deal with him too. Thor has teleported skyfathers against their will before, so that's one option. Genis-Vell was able to trap Sentry (granted not Void/Sentry) into a pocket universe and trap him there).

Also, we all know when Thor gets really desperate, the go-to weapon of choice is the godblast, and he never even seemed to consider that here.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I agree with you for the most part. (But keep in mind, Thor has survived being in the core of the sun too). But Thor has other options to deal with him too. Thor has teleported skyfathers against their will before, so that's one option. Genis-Vell was able to trap Sentry (granted not Void/Sentry) into a pocket universe and trap him there).

Originally posted by shokosugi
This is so easy.

Thor > Hellicarrier > Void

Void retook control. He was about to hurt/kill everybody -confirmed in Fallen Sun- and Thor took him out.

It happened. Get over it everyone. It's Bendis.

I have a question:

If Bob had as much of a say in things as others claim, why didn't he simply kill himself like he tried previously?

Clearly he lacked the power, and he asked the better looking and more powerful man to do what he couldn't.

Cause Voidtry was holding back baka

^If you ignore the dialogue, then sure he was. At least before fully Voiding out.

Thor can kill him, but I think Void has the power to dominate the battle if Thor it's his only opponent. As someone said, if we take only Thor's high feats he makes it a fight, maybe even split, but Void is the top dog when it comes to regular showings.

Void should win.

I'll give it to him 8/10.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
CBR: “I’ve noticed that a couple of people had a problem with Thor killing the Void, but Thor is part of a pantheon of deities worshiped by a warrior culture. So I imagine that while Thor might not like killing much, when push comes to shove it’s something he’ll do”

BENDIS: “Right, and it also wasn’t his first choice. It was a third choice. He flat out said, “No I won’t kill you,” and then no choice was given. So if anything, it was one of the most noble and heroic things Thor has done. He tried everything in his power to be the better man and then took care of business when he had no other choice. So I thought it was a good moment”

the reason void died is cuz bob wanted to...plan as day...thor said he wouldnt kill bob not void....im confused where u see it says he was holding back?...all i see is he thought void was gone and wanted bob to pay for what he did.......but when void manifested again he had no choice and attacked just like he was before...only this time bob didnt want to live so he didnt regenerate

if bob doesnt want to die there is nothing thor or anybody else can do...just like everyother time void has appeared...he was only defeated by bob

every time void appears he handles heros like they are flies...similar to what odin would do...odin is much better of a match then thor in my eyes

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Void wins.

I give it to him 10/10.

good man!

Originally posted by bbrem123
good man!

I mean void was clearly above thor but he wasn't one-shotting him or anything.

captain america gave him more trouble...he was blocking with his shield and hurting void via norn stone just like thor

its just more epic to see a giant lightning bolt finish void off and not a shield bash or something lol