Originally posted by amnesia
But hulk would beat Void, cause the angrier he gets the stronger he gets!(He was in void form, he obviously didn't want to die..)
he scream "kill me" after turning into void..i don't know how u interpreted that..but to me that means he wants to die..and i'm not a Sentry fanboy..i'm Surfer fanboy..
Originally posted by SamZED
I still dont understand how comes The Void has managed to reform himself after MM took him apart on molecular level and when Morgan Le Fay disintegrated his body, but not when Thor hit him with a lightning. Either he's not dead but simply chose not to come back or its some serious PIS. Also whaever happened to his ability to take people apart? He did it to Loki so why not Thor?
he stabed Loki with a "tentacle". thor kept his distance... 😎
Originally posted by SamZED
I still dont understand how comes The Void has managed to reform himself after MM took him apart on molecular level and when Morgan Le Fay disintegrated his body, but not when Thor hit him with a lightning. Either he's not dead but simply chose not to come back or its some serious PIS. Also whaever happened to his ability to take people apart? He did it to Loki so why not Thor?
You hit the nail on the head with this one. This is why i still cannot accept claims of thor being more powerful than void. if void/sentry could reform from being taken apart on a molecular level and was also continuously reforming from being a skeleton within the sun then a lightning bolt from thor that reduced him to a skeleton really shouldnt be able to do it at all unless his powers magically stopped working. As for that hellicarier bit.......i really have no idea what went on there......perhaps thhe hellicarier explosion gave bob the opportunity to retake control from the void.
Him failing to take all the heroes apart is a strange one too. i mean he takes molecule man and Loki apart with ease and then just forgets he has that power?.....Bob wanting to die must have played a major part in this imo.
Originally posted by Naija boy
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Him failing to take all the heroes apart is a strange one too. i mean he takes molecule man and Loki apart with ease and then just forgets he has that power?.....Bob wanting to die must have played a major part in this imo. [/B]
this is the most logical explenation...not that Bendis gave enough room for logic
You're overthinking how regeneration works. Wolverine has regenerated from decapitation, getting his brain mashed and from a drop of blood, he has survived nukes etc. etc. Yet, we know Wolverine can be killed, at time he's killed by simple blasts or overextended physical damage, the issue here is not HOW he was killed, but how many times. Being destroyed molecule by molecule won't make him more dead than dead.
Originally posted by BentleySo killing him 2 times is enough? Why wasn't Molecule Man able to just tear him apart a second time? Seriously Thor > Void just doesn't make any sense...
You're overthinking how regeneration works. Wolverine has regenerated from decapitation, getting his brain mashed and from a drop of blood, he has survived nukes etc. etc. Yet, we know Wolverine can be killed, at time he's killed by simple blasts or overextended physical damage, the issue here is not HOW he was killed, but how many times. Being destroyed molecule by molecule won't make him more dead than dead.
I didn't say it made sense, because it doesn't, because Bendis didn't want it to make sense.
Still, its just possible that Sentry's powers are a good answer to Moleculeman because they share traits. If Sentry/Void could prevent MM from shaping reality with his powers then it was pretty much over. In the other hand his resistance to being punched very hard, while high, wouldn't be as massive as his anti-manipulation skills.
It could be explained. Sadly its pretty much out there for us to make sense until they throw us a bone of explanation -which may never, ever happen-.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think it's funny how Thor and the heroes beating Void Sentry is apparently PIS, yet all of Sentry's random ass showings and feats such as beating Molecule Man at his own game aren't.In any case, Bendis FTL.
The reason that Thor and the heroes beating sentry is being questioned is because given his recent power showings the way in which he was defeated should not be possible. Sentrys reent showings while very random arent PIS but r just an example of character wank by a writers.
That being said whats the point of hyping up a character and finally giving a bunch of new abilities only to have him fail to use them in the end? Im a thor fan and certainly wanted him to take sentry/void down but that debacle in siege 4 was not the way to do it.
Originally posted by Naija boy
The reason that Thor and the heroes beating sentry is being questioned is because given his recent power showings the way in which he was defeated should not be possible. Sentrys reent showings while very random arent PIS but r just an example of character wank by a writers.
That being said whats the point of hyping up a character and finally giving a bunch of new abilities only to have him fail to use them in the end? Im a thor fan and certainly wanted him to take sentry/void down but that debacle in siege 4 was not the way to do it.
I have no clue what the ultimate end game for Sentry was supposed to be or if Siege #4 was really it. I'm a firm supporter of character and story over power level and fights, but again, Bendis blatantly messing with power levels just to make one of his pet characters look good is stupid as hell. He offers next to no explanation as to why Void can do what he can, gives some shady and possible however unlikely "Angel of Death" origin, and then writes Siege #4. Fallen Sun was even worse, just a waste of $3.50 in a final attempt to cast Sentry in this tragic heroic light by
Spoiler:without issue.
randomly revealing he could have sex with Rogue
I feel bad for the people who did truly enjoy Sentry and wanted to follow him more in Marvel. I don't even really care for the concept or character of him, and I felt cheated by Marvel and their sub par concluding skills.
Personally I didn't see it as far fetched as you people make it sound. I knew from the beginning that Void was going to die by being pounded with a hammer by a norse blond.
Clearly when Bendis wrote Sentry defeating MM he wasn't thinking the Void as someone beyond a cosmic cube. Sentry went on to be defeated by Absorbing Man because that was the order on the day. Only fans who try to look at things way too closely miss the big picture of how things tend to work in comics. Thor is uber, dying by Thor fighting seriously is nothing short of amazing -the fight and the plot was still terribly wrapped.
Originally posted by Bentley
Personally I didn't see it as far fetched as you people make it sound. I knew from the beginning that Void was going to die by being pounded with a hammer by a norse blond.Clearly when Bendis wrote Sentry defeating MM he wasn't thinking the Void as someone beyond a cosmic cube. Sentry went on to be defeated by Absorbing Man because that was the order on the day. Only fans who try to look at things way too closely miss the big picture of how things tend to work in comics. Thor is uber, dying by Thor fighting seriously is nothing short of amazing -the fight and the plot was still terribly wrapped.
QFT.
Besides, hasn't Thor beaten foes who are at the end of the day > than what Void Sentry has shown us? And if not beaten outright, done very well against in comparison. I for one am not going to use Bendis-Thor as the beginning and end when it comes to his showings, especially not in a forum setting.
People tend to forget how much of a serious deal Thor is in the Marvel universe. I mean, if Galactus or a threat in that level comes to Earth, having Thor into the rooster may as well be the tipping point.
Remember Secret Invasion? Wasp became a bomb and Thor singlehandedly took care of that almost without blinking -something that would've otherwise destroyed most heroes-. How people tend to overlook him is really sad.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I have no clue what the ultimate end game for Sentry was supposed to be or if Siege #4 was really it. I'm a firm supporter of character and story over power level and fights, but again, Bendis blatantly messing with power levels just to make one of his pet characters look good is stupid as hell. He offers next to no explanation as to why Void can do what he can, gives some shady and possible however unlikely "Angel of Death" origin, and then writes Siege #4. Fallen Sun was even worse, just a waste of $3.50 in a final attempt to cast Sentry in this tragic heroic light bySpoiler:without issue.
randomly revealing he could have sex with RogueI feel bad for the people who did truly enjoy Sentry and wanted to follow him more in Marvel. I don't even really care for the concept or character of him, and I felt cheated by Marvel and their sub par concluding skills.
@Spoiler. Lol. Career harlot strikes again.
As to the thread, it was appropriate for Void to be taken down by the main man Thor. It should have been no other way and I'm sure we all knew it was coming.
This has little to do with Thor being overlooked but rather is all about Void sentrys powers just magically failing to function. The problem is NOT having thor as a character being the one to finally take Voidtry out because we expect this (similar to how superman usually saves the day in the end) but rather has to do with the manner in which he did it being implausible given voidtrys recent showings.
I do agree that Naija Boy that the fact that wasn't able to just rip apart the heroes with molecule manipulation, definitely falls under CIS. Not necessarily not being able to rip apart Thor though, as I'm sure Thor has some kind of defense for it up his sleeve, but being able to rip apart say Iron Man should have been a no brainer.
Maybe he needs some preparation for it, did he not say that he has not mastered?