Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think it's funny how Thor and the heroes beating Void Sentry is apparently PIS, yet all of Sentry's random ass showings and feats such as beating Molecule Man at his own game aren't.
because they happened after the Void took control...see?
everything explained....drunk
It was foreshadowed in Dark Avengers that Sentry/Bob/Void can only die when he truly whishes to do so, and made clear in this issue that he does -- thus the ending with him begging Thor to end it.
Sentry has destroyed Asgard and killed Loki, with Thor was helpless in both instances. To act like he was portrayed as anywhere near powerful enough to stop Void on his own is quite the narrow-minded view, and ignoring the fact that Void had already fought Thor once and easily handled him (Siege #3), took on Norn Ston amped heroes, withstood and killed Loki, got attacked by Thor/Hellcarrier again -which allowed Bob to regain control, and ask Thor to die- and then Thor got the final shot with him specifically asking to be killed.
Void for the stomp, still.
Originally posted by Philosophía
It was foreshadowed in Dark Avengers that Sentry/Bob/Void can only die when he truly whishes to do so, and made clear in this issue that he does -- thus the ending with him begging Thor to end it.Sentry has destroyed Asgard and killed Loki, with Thor was helpless in both instances. To act like he was portrayed as anywhere near powerful enough to stop Void on his own is quite the narrow-minded view, and ignoring the fact that Void had already fought Thor once and easily handled him (Siege #3), took on Norn Ston amped heroes, withstood and killed Loki, got attacked by Thor/Hellcarrier again -which allowed Bob to regain control, and ask Thor to die- and then Thor got the final shot with him specifically asking to be killed.
Void for the stomp, still.
Only Sentry didn't easily handle Thor. He took several blows from Thor which succeeded in cracking open in Sentry "shell" to reveal the juicy Void goodness from within. Sentry grasped Thor with one of his tentacle things and had him momentarily restricted. And when same fight was shown from another angle, the two of them looked pretty even in terms of power. He didn't "stomp" Thor nor did he show anything close to resembling a "stomp". People like Thanos or Odin or Molecule Man (lawl) "stomp" Thor, not Void Sentry and sure as hell not on a forum setting.
As far as the Norn Stone goes, they obviously had even more than an effect than normal attacks went, causing Void to scream and b!tch about things weren't fair and how he wanted to get rid of the mischief behind them (ie. Loki). Even after the Norn Stones effect wore off Thor was still bombarding him with enough lightning to disperse parts of his body and was even able to BFR him to another location clear from the bystanders.
Again, Void in all likelihood beats Thor for a majority, but to claim it's a "stomp" is ridiculous based on their respective showings alike.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Only Sentry didn't easily handle Thor. He took several blows from Thor which succeeded in cracking open in Sentry "shell" to reveal the juicy Void goodness from within. Sentry grasped Thor with one of his tentacle things and had him momentarily restricted. And when same fight was shown from another angle, the two of them looked pretty even in terms of power. He didn't "stomp" Thor nor did he show anything close to resembling a "stomp". People like Thanos or Odin or Molecule Man (lawl) "stomp" Thor, not Void Sentry and sure as hell not on a forum setting.As far as the Norn Stone goes, they obviously had even more than an effect than normal attacks went, causing Void to scream and b!tch about things weren't fair and how he wanted to get rid of the mischief behind them (ie. Loki). Even after the Norn Stones effect wore off Thor was still bombarding him with enough lightning to disperse parts of his body and was even able to BFR him to another location clear from the bystanders.
Again, Void in all likelihood beats Thor for a majority, but to claim it's a "stomp" is ridiculous based on their respective showings alike.
At the end there, after the helicarrier, do you think thor could have put him down if the void didn't want it to happen?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThor took a free shot at Void, as the latter shrugged it off. He then attacked him again "with all the power at his command" and, yet again, the only thing it did was reveal more of Void's true form. Pages latter, he is helpless in Void's tentacles, with a desperate look on his face. I guess he's lucky that Osborn saved his ass by sending Sentry to destroy Asgard, or he would have gotten the Ares treatment.
Only Sentry didn't easily handle Thor.
That way, he just stood on helpless with a "No..No..cry2" while Sentry went through Asgard, his home, like butter.
Go Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As far as the Norn Stone goes, they obviously had even more than an effect than normal attacks went, causing Void to scream and b!tch about things weren't fair and how he wanted to get rid of the mischief behind them (ie. Loki). Even after the Norn Stones effect wore off Thor was still bombarding him with enough lightning to disperse parts of his body and was even able to BFR him to another location clear from the bystanders.Again, Void in all likelihood beats Thor for a majority, but to claim it's a "stomp" is ridiculous based on their respective showings alike.
Yes, the heroes were obviously more effective with the norn-stone amp. That is, until Void decided to turn his attention twoards Loki and take him down like he is Robin with a broken arm going up against Galactus.
What was Thor doing? I bet he was totally plowing through Void to save his brother when Void wasn't even focused on him at the time, am I right?
Oh.. right.
Which is irrelevant, because it has nothing to do with how Thor performs under his own power, against a Void that hasn't been under constant attack and asking to be killed. We already had that in Siege #3, when the only thing that saved him was Void going "lulz, I'll take your home down".
Originally posted by 753
At the end there, after the helicarrier, do you think thor could have put him down if the void didn't want it to happen?
After the Helicarrier?
I certainly think it's possible. He was sustaining consistent damage that was harming him before it was dropped damage that Thor alone could replicate in a forum setting. Void's got impressive regen capabilities to be sure, but it's been shown time and time again that he can be "killed". Whether or not its permanent is another story.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thor took a free shot at Void, as the latter shrugged it off. He then attacked him again "with all the power at his command" and, yet again, the only thing it did was reveal more of Void's true form. Pages latter, he is helpless in Void's tentacles, with a desperate look on his face. I guess he's lucky that Osborn saved his ass by sending Sentry to destroy Asgard, or he would have gotten the Ares treatment.That way, he just stood on helpless with a "No..No..cry2" while Sentry went through Asgard, his home, like butter.
Go Thor.
Yes, the heroes were obviously more effective with the norn-stone amp. That is, until Void decided to turn his attention twoards Loki and take him down like he is Robin with a broken arm going up against Galactus.
What was Thor doing? I bet he was totally plowing through Void to save his brother when Void wasn't even focused on him at the time, am I right?
Oh.. right.
Which is irrelevant, because it has nothing to do with how Thor performs under his own power, against a Void that hasn't been under constant attack and asking to be killed. We already had that in Siege #3, when the only thing that saved him was Void going "lulz, I'll take your home down".
Robin with a broken arm >>>>> Thor?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thor took a free shot at Void, as the latter shrugged it off. He then attacked him again "with all the power at his command" and, yet again, the only thing it did was reveal more of Void's true form. Pages latter, he is helpless in Void's tentacles, with a desperate look on his face. I guess he's lucky that Osborn saved his ass by sending Sentry to destroy Asgard, or he would have gotten the Ares treatment.That way, he just stood on helpless with a "No..No..cry2" while Sentry went through Asgard, his home, like butter.
Go Thor.
Yes, because Thor being "helpless" in the grips of a situation, figuratively or literally = Thor being stomped. If Thor was stomped, he would have been one-shotted by Sentry or casually dealt with much like Odin flicked away Silver Surfer or something similar. Forgive me if I don't use an single issue of Thor being disadvantaged by Void as the bar for what's going to happen in a forum setting without things like plot device or PIS or location.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Yes, the heroes were obviously more effective with the norn-stone amp. That is, until Void decided to turn his attention twoards Loki and take him down like he is Robin with a broken arm going up against Galactus.What was Thor doing? I bet he was totally plowing through Void to save his brother when Void wasn't even focused on him at the time, am I right?
Oh.. right.
Which is irrelevant, because it has nothing to do with how Thor performs under his own power, against a Void that hasn't been under constant attack and asking to be killed. We already had that in Siege #3, when the only thing that saved him was Void going "lulz, I'll take you home down".
Right... 😐
And Thor as per Siege <<<< Thor's entire career and plethora of showings/feats to warrant him not being "stomped" by Void, considering he wasn't "stomped" to begin with in said Siege.
Originally posted by SamZED
On a forum fight.. what's stopping Void from taking Thor apart the same way he did it to MM and Loki using his powers?
BFRing Void, draining him of life essence, erecting force fields which have stood up to far more than what Void has displayed, etc.
A forum fight gives Thor just as much of an advantage as it does Void.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankGiving your opponents free shots and then restraining him casually while he has a "I'm going to burst into womanly tears at any moment now" is what I'd consider a stomp, yes.
Yes, because Thor being "helpless" in the grips of a situation, figuratively or literally = Thor being stomped.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankOr like Void one-shotted Molecule Man and Loki w/Norn Stones, am I right?
If Thor was stomped, he would have been one-shotted by Sentry or casually dealt with much like Odin flicked away Silver Surfer or something similar.
Thor was, like I said, lucky that Sentry had to leave to destroy his home for the lulz, because things weren't looking so good for him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI do.
Forgive me
Originally posted by Philosophía
Giving your opponents free shots and then restraining him casually while he has a "I'm going to burst into womanly tears at any moment now" is what I'd consider a stomp, yes.
Or like Void one-shotted Molecule Man and Loki w/Norn Stones, am I right?Thor was, like I said, lucky that Sentry had to leave to destroy his home for the lulz, because things weren't looking so good for him.
I do.
Only they weren't free shots at all. The Thor Siege tie-ins reveals that much.
Void one-shotting one of the weakest portrayed Molecule Man's ever is a good feat, I'm guessing? Donald Blake broke his nose with a punch. It's obvious his durability is off the charts. Had Void beat a Molecule Man who was ravaging the entire planet or galaxy, I'd be more willing to hype him up. Loki w/ Norn Stones was doing something right, I'd imagine. And it's not like Thor hasn't beaten an amped Loki before, so forgive me if I don't think that's an OMG WTF feat.
I'm not disputing that much. Fact of the matter is, Void's best feat was beating a rather tame Molecule Man, whose persona drastically alters and as such effects his power levels. If we use Thor's best feats as most seem to be doing for Void, he doesn't get stomped here at all. Lose, more than likely. Get stomped, no.