Originally posted by -Pr-The helicarrier didn't defeat him, it jarred out bob who in turn saw what he did and wanted to be put down due to the guilt. He also easily smashed asgard while Thor stood by, overpowered the avengers, killed Loki and at the end only died when he wanted to.
i'm willing to bet Superman can do a better job than the Helicarrier did.Like who?
Henshaw with sc rings, Atlas, Doomsday.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The helicarrier didn't defeat him, it jarred out bob who in turn saw what he did and wanted to be put down due to the guilt. He also easily smashed asgard while Thor stood by, overpowered the avengers, killed Loki and at the end only died when he wanted to.Henshaw with sc rings, Atlas, Doomsday.
i don't agree.
He eventually beat Henshaw. He lost to Atlas only because Atlas had help. The only Doomsday he ever lost to was H/P.
Originally posted by -Pr-We didn't see him overcome Henshaw on his own and we saw Henshaw beat him in the issue.
i don't agree.He eventually beat Henshaw. He lost to Atlas only because Atlas had help. The only Doomsday he ever lost to was H/P.
What help did Atlas have? At the end Superman got an amp to deal with Atlas.
Superman bfr'd DD with the league's help but it proved Supes needs to bfr him to beat him not that he can kill him.
Sentry's power level is leagues above Henshaw's with as many rings as you want to give the guy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We didn't see him overcome Henshaw on his own and we saw Henshaw beat him in the issue.What help did Atlas have? At the end Superman got an amp to deal with Atlas.
Superman bfr'd DD with the league's help but it proved Supes needs to bfr him to beat him not that he can kill him.
Sentry's power level is leagues above Henshaw's with as many rings as you want to give the guy.
but he did beat Henshaw, as was stated.
Superman had the sun to help him, no actual amp. if you'd read the issue, you'd know that Superman was being cut off from his power source during the fight, giving Atlas the upper hand.
H/P? Back then, sure. that H/P was uber, though, and Superman has gotten much more powerful since then.
LOL at Sentry wanking. He has feats that wildly vary with his state of mind, and even his most impressive feats aren't that impressive. Flying through a floating city that was never proven to be any more durable than any current existing city? It only looks impressive because the entire city is in the air as it falls apart. Wonder Man could do that.
Originally posted by -Pr-When? We saw Henshaw crush him. What line and what did we see?
but he did beat Henshaw, as was stated.Superman had the sun to help him, no actual amp. if you'd read the issue, you'd know that Superman was being cut off from his power source during the fight, giving Atlas the upper hand.
H/P? Back then, sure. that H/P was uber, though, and Superman has gotten much more powerful since then.
That's due to his magical powers not outside help for the fight. Superman needed outside help to deal with him and if a character can cut off his power source then it sucks to be Superman. If Surfer drains the gamma it sucks to be Hulk not that he has outside help.
Superman's never gotten to the point of raping the gl corps or stomping apokolips with Darkseid included.
Originally posted by Johnny SorrowRipping ares in half-not impressive right? Taking on the avengers with Thor on them isn't impressive right? Destroying Loki as easily as he did with a norn stone is not that impressive right? Overpowering the MM is not that impressive right?
LOL at Sentry wanking. He has feats that wildly vary with his state of mind, and even his most impressive feats aren't that impressive. Flying through a floating city that was never proven to be any more durable than any current existing city? It only looks impressive because the entire city is in the air as it falls apart. Wonder Man could do that.
Originally posted by BentleyReally? Do you think Thor can beat the Void with this lightning blast at any time or do you think it had something to do with the fact he wanted to die?
Bah, go read Thor vs Sentry/Void (spoilers) thread, Jake and I pretty much ran the lapse around people who think only Sentry had PIS against him and people who don't make special rules for characters they like.
Originally posted by BentleyHe chose not to reform and just needed a killing blow. It's obvious because he was hit with blasts from Thor prior to and a lot worse than what actually took him out.
I think he did not die [b]just because he wanted to die. That's my stance.I also think Void beats Thor. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ripping ares in half-not impressive right? Taking on the avengers with Thor on them isn't impressive right? Destroying Loki as easily as he did with a norn stone is not that impressive right? Overpowering the MM is not that impressive right?
Bloody, yes. Impressive? Eh. It was a spectacle, that's all.
I guess that puts him on the level of Taskmaster. And since the Young Avengers beat Kang, I guess that makes them more powerful than the Avengers who couldn't in the past. vin
Not really either. Loki isn't Thor in durability, unless the stones were granting him specific powers that the Void overcame.
MM was special circumstance: Sentry was actually controlling the molecules MM 'tasted', hence why he had better control over them than MM. It's why he didn't do the same thing to those characters in Siege: he couldn't.