Originally posted by Johnny Sorrowbendis said he had reality matter manipulation powers and it's obvious he wsn't going to kill all of the avengers. Just because he didn't rip cap in half and chose to do so to Loki doesn't he couldn't. This is just terrible logic which you have to understand serves the purpose of the story not a battle board where good guys can die.
Bloody, yes. Impressive? Eh. It was a spectacle, that's all.I guess that puts him on the level of Taskmaster. And since the Young Avengers beat Kang, I guess that makes them more powerful than the Avengers who couldn't in the past. vin
Not really either. Loki isn't Thor in durability, unless the stones were granting him specific powers that the Void overcame.
MM was special circumstance: Sentry was actually controlling the molecules MM 'tasted', hence why he had better control over them than MM. It's why he didn't do the same thing to those characters in Siege: he couldn't.
Your logic is I guess he could kill Loki but not Cap because he didn't so it means he couldn't. Just terrible.
Originally posted by iceman24567
The way they beat Kang was some bs
Ditto. It was to prove a point, one that poor quanchi still doesn't get.
Originally posted by quanchi112
bendis said he had reality matter manipulation powers and it's obvious he wsn't going to kill all of the avengers. Just because he didn't rip cap in half and chose to do so to Loki doesn't he couldn't. This is just terrible logic which you have to understand serves the purpose of the story not a battle board where good guys can die.Your logic is I guess he could kill Loki but not Cap because he didn't so it means he couldn't. Just terrible.
See above.
Originally posted by -Pr-
molecule man wasn't in siege, and thor wasn't that highly amped that i could see.
molecule man was fight the same sentry as they were in siege so it really doesnt matter... and thor must have a a big amp...one stone made cap capable of hurting void so one can only image how power thor got. then you have loki with all of them get stomped with the slighted of ease
Originally posted by Bentley
Bah, go read Thor vs Sentry/Void (spoilers) thread, Jake and I pretty much ran the lapse around people who think only Sentry had PIS against him and people who don't make special rules for characters they like.
lmfao, ran the lapse around people? that is bordering on delusional. Its amazing that some peoples dislike of the Void/Sentry character is making them attempt to outrightly disregard his shown capabilities. I mean i dont care much for the character either but the capabilities he showed r really undeniable. he convincingly wins this fight as well as a fight as well as fights against other high heralds, (thor, surfer etc)
Originally posted by Naija boy
lmfao, ran the lapse around people? that is bordering on delusional. Its amazing that some peoples dislike of the Void/Sentry character is making them attempt to outrightly disregard his shown capabilities. I mean i dont care much for the character either but the capabilities he showed r really undeniable. he convincingly wins this fight as well as a fight as well as fights against other high heralds, (thor, surfer etc)
That actually brings up a good point.
What has Sentry/Void actually done to put him on the level of people like the Surfer? Do list feats.
Originally posted by bbrem123
ive seen him manhandle thor...and ive seen thor beat surferi also saw void manhandle MM who shook the multiverse
To be fair, Surfer has had ~50 years of feats to compare.
ABC logic does not compute. I've already pointed this out in several of the other Void threads. If you believe what you've said, then by your logic the Young Avengers are more powerful than past Avenger teams (because they beat Kang when the others couldn't) and that Nova is more powerful than the reality-warping Sphinx.
Molecule Man was extremely weakened in his appearance. Even Daken was resisting his power.
Originally posted by bbrem123
ive seen him take on strange, thor, reed and manyyyyy others at once and they were all helpless...strange has done more ridiculous stuff then surf and thor rivals anything surfer has done. and reed has done the most ridiculous of them all but failed to stop void....hmmmm
I recall the appearance you're talking about, and you're wrong again. They weren't "helpless" at all, but they couldn't affect it because it originated from Bob's mind and they weren't going to kill him.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
That actually brings up a good point.What has Sentry/Void actually done to put him on the level of people like the Surfer? Do list feats.
When he finally began realizing his full powers, he was able to out-molecular manip the molecule man who is a molecular manipulator several several degress higher than Surfer (and molecular manip is usually surfers thing) causing him to disintegrate and then was able to easily do the same thing to Loki with the norn stones amping him (Loki who himself has high level matter manipulation). plus his casual handling of thor and the rest of the avengers.
Im one of surfers biggest supporters on this forum but i know that he definitely hasnt shown to be able to match someone like molecule man matter manip ( and there was no mentioning of molecule man being weakened in that scenario, let alone weakened to a point that would put him at herald level) wise let alone overcome him. Similarly he cant casually disperse a being as powerful as Loki let alone while he is amped. In a fight between Void sentry and Surfer/Thor/Superman i really dont see how they can avoid the same thing happenining to them.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
To be fair, Surfer has had ~50 years of feats to compare.ABC logic does not compute. I've already pointed this out in several of the other Void threads. If you believe what you've said, then by your logic the Young Avengers are more powerful than past Avenger teams (because they beat Kang when the others couldn't) and that Nova is more powerful than the reality-warping Sphinx.
Molecule Man was extremely weakened in his appearance. Even Daken was resisting his power.
I recall the appearance you're talking about, and you're wrong again. They weren't "helpless" at all, but they couldn't affect it because it originated from Bob's mind and they weren't going to kill him.
MM was weakened? says who u? haha it says nowhere that he was weakened. Daken didnt stand a chance come on now.
yes they were helpless...go read the first series of sentry please...no hero has beat void yet to this day except for sentry.(which is himself)