Is this routine innapropriate for 7 year old girls?

I think it's incredible. The routine looks crazy hard, I don't see a problem with this at all. These girls are all clearly mature, professional seven year olds (contradicting?). I assume they've been dancing for years and are top of their class or in a selective school.

If that's the case, we could consider them serious performers who know what their job entails. Just because their 7 doesn't mean they aren't working towards a dream of being a professional dancer. The outfits just fit the song.. i doubt the teachers cared enough about appropriateness when it came down to it. That could be the difference between winning and losing.

Moron.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I think it's incredible. The routine looks crazy hard, I don't see a problem with this at all. These girls are all clearly mature, professional seven year olds (contradicting?). I assume they've been dancing for years and are top of their class or in a selective school.

If that's the case, we could consider them serious performers who know what their job entails. Just because their 7 doesn't mean they aren't working towards a dream of being a professional dancer. The outfits just fit the song.. i doubt the teachers cared enough about appropriateness when it came down to it. That could be the difference between winning and losing.

No doubt that they are talented, for sure. I did point out that they should be applauded for how awesome they did. It's the outfit and some of the moves that I had a problem with. They could have adjusted the routine (not significantly, but still some) and outfits, and no one would complain, they'd still get their deserved credit for awesome work, and no one would complain about 7-year-old girls dancing like strippers while dressed as exotic dancers.

Dude, they could have outright danced to a hundred different songs, worn a hundred different outfits and performed a hundred different routines that would have been just as "impressive" from a skill POV and would have been acceptable.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
i doubt the teachers cared enough about appropriateness when it came down to it. That could be the difference between winning and losing.

you have actually isolated the only problem here

I agree that it is funny to see everyone race to say how much more offended they are by this than the previous poster, but that doesn't mean there isn't some merit to what they are saying.

These girls deserve to be commended and should be proud of their performance, and I hope they were never the center of a controversy, but, the attitude you outlined above there is exactly what the problem is.

People don't do dances in a bubble. This was a national competition with media present. We can talk about art pushing bounds, but this was not that! It just goes over the line of taste too far, not because the girls did anything wrong, but because the instructors didn't think through what they were doing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No doubt that they are talented, for sure. I did point out that they should be applauded for how awesome they did. It's the outfit and some of the moves that I had a problem with. They could have adjusted the routine (not significantly, but still some) and outfits, and no one would complain, they'd still get their deserved credit for awesome work, and no one would complain about 7-year-old girls dancing like strippers while dressed as exotic dancers.

actually, I'd still complain

I don't like this whole pagentry nonsense at all

At least it looked like the girls were enjoying themselves

this is what ges pedaphiles attention. videos like this

jesus christ, this has nothing to do with pedophelia

Originally posted by chomperx9
this is what ges pedaphiles attention. videos like this

If you're implying stuff like this causes pedophilia, would be a stupid conclusion.

If you're just saying exactly what your wording said, I think children in general catch the attention of pedophiles.

Originally posted by inimalist
actually, I'd still complain

I don't like this whole pagentry nonsense at all

At least it looked like the girls were enjoying themselves

At 7, I liked performing and making people laugh...but you're right: parents push their children too hard, sometimes. But how do we know that the girls didn't like it? Surely they did? They are a bit too young to not have wanted to do it, right?

I dunno...it's hard to say, but that type of discipline that they showed was obviously the work of tens to hundreds of hours, imo.

Obviously they enjoyed it, it was dancing to them and I'm certain their parents backed them up.

Though I don't agree with the "if they enjoyed it, them it's fine and acceptable" angle, if that's what is being said here.

Originally posted by dadudemon
At 7, I liked performing and making people laugh...but you're right: parents push their children too hard, sometimes. But how do we know that the girls didn't like it? Surely they did? They are a bit too young to not have wanted to do it, right?

I dunno...it's hard to say, but that type of discipline that they showed was obviously the work of tens to hundreds of hours, imo.

you can't make blanket statements about any children and what is appropriate, and I'm sure lots of kids have fun from that. I started playing hockey just after that, and was in other sports. and in a lot of ways I think they are the same

You just hit the nail on the head. While these might be enriching to kids, its not like there aren't other ways they can get that same empowerment that doesn't involve the same pressure and competition.

This is a little beyond the issue in the video. I think it is more of a problem with the way we value women vs parental pressure, but if we are talking about just like general childhood activities, ya, I think there must be ways to sort of reduce how bad this stuff can be for kids.

I'm always reminded of the guy who beat his son's hockey coach to death right after the game, in front of the kids, for some trivial reason (my dad coached for years and had some confrontations too)

Originally posted by inimalist
jesus christ, this has nothing to do with pedophelia

Originally posted by inimalist
This is a little beyond the issue in the video. I think it is more of a problem with the way we value women vs parental pressure, but if we are talking about just like general childhood activities, ya, I think there must be ways to sort of reduce how bad this stuff can be for kids.

Those little girl beauty pageants are more about the parents (mothers) living vicariously through their kids, than it's about the kids enjoying themselves competing.

You probably already know this; I'm just ranting.

Originally posted by chomperx9
why wouldnt it get any of their attention ?

ok, but by that line of reasoning the underwear dept at GAP kids gets their attention.

The issue with this dance isn't that we are afraid someone is going to wank to it, it is that it is a public display of a level of sexual movement that is inappropriate for the age group.

Christ, if that is your standard, children should never be allowed outside, or especially to swimming pools.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those little girl beauty pageants are more about the parents (mothers) living vicariously through their kids, than it's about the kids enjoying themselves competing.

You probably already know this; I'm just ranting.

no, totally, thats why I made the comparison to hockey...

is that normal in the states? do you have these washed up old pseudo-athlete dads who need their kids to succeed at sports? that has to be universal, not just a canadian hockey thing.

but, ya, totally. And its not that I think it is impossible for the little girls to be enjoying themselves, or for it to even be an important and constructive part of their lives, just that there are way more healthier ways to instill that in your kids.

Originally posted by inimalist
no, totally, thats why I made the comparison to hockey...

is that normal in the states? do you have these washed up old pseudo-athlete dads who need their kids to succeed at sports? that has to be universal, not just a canadian hockey thing.

but, ya, totally. And its not that I think it is impossible for the little girls to be enjoying themselves, or for it to even be an important and constructive part of their lives, just that there are way more healthier ways to instill that in your kids.

Beauty Pageants are more a Mid-West and Southern thing, so I've only seen videos, watched a documentary, read articles etc. Though I'm sure they're around and not far from me, lurking, somewhere.

But I've seen Johnny-football-hero-in-high-school dads push their kids way to hard at sports, not because it's good for the kid, but because they see it as an extension of themselves.

Originally posted by inimalist
ok, but by that line of reasoning the underwear dept at GAP kids gets their attention.

The issue with this dance isn't that we are afraid someone is going to wank to it, it is that it is a public display of a level of sexual movement that is inappropriate for the age group.

Christ, if that is your standard, children should never be allowed outside, or especially to swimming pools.

and i dont know why you have it in your head that im paranoid with children being seen outside.

Originally posted by chomperx9
im aware of the public display and how wrong it was. but there are some pedaphiles out there i bet you googling hard the names of those children. yes childrens underwear gets their attention and seeing them in person as well. but im pretty sure them dressed up as strippers dancing around like britney is gonna get their attention big time.

so you think this makes the children more likely targets of pedophiles?

you know most child abuse happens from family or family friends, yes?

Originally posted by chomperx9
and i dont know why you have it in your head that im paranoid with children being seen outside.

because children outside are going to attract the attention of pdeophiles

in fact, statistics will show, more children are sexually abused because they were seen outside than seen at a pagent

Originally posted by inimalist
because children outside are going to attract the attention of pdeophiles

in fact, statistics will show, more children are sexually abused because they were seen outside than seen at a pagent

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