Balder vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are you guys being serious? Balder using his light powers is as realistic as Wolverine climbing out of a vat of molten steel?

W.T.F.

[b]Seriously, how are we even supposed to have a conversation when one of you declares it would take Thor all day to ko Wolverine and the other declares that Balder using his light powers is as unrealistic as Wolverine climbing out of a molten steel vat? Jebus, this thread took a sharp turn down retard lane. [/B]

Clearly I was trying to make my point more effective. Leave it to ODG to take it as literally as possible.

And no, that's not what I said, I said likely. Blader uses some power he's used less than handful of times (nevermind in fights) in his entire career and because one of those times happened recently it's plausible to base an argument that this will be his go-to tactic?

Sorry that's about as good a sell as Gamora taking out Human Torch with energy Blasts or Carnage taking out tooth with his one-time mentioned vampiric touch....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Don't ask questions. Hulk swam through lava to get to the core of Skaar. Which assuming Skaar is similar to the Earth, we are talking about heat it excess to that of the Sun... not to mention the pressure. Healing = godly.

/shrug

😈

Hulk's healing factor helped but his natural durability clearly played the bigger part in it. He wasn't being incinerated and regenerating (Ala Sentry in Dark Avengers #13) but tanking the heat. Comparing the two is rather....wrong.

The heat of the Earth's core and by extension the heat of Sakaar's core, is hotter than the Sun?

Originally posted by jinzin
I know right? It's about as believable as Balder using lightbased incineration as his go-to tactic.

I'm assuming your joking as you seem to be a sensible enough fellow.

Otherwise.....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk's healing factor helped but his natural durability clearly played the bigger part in it. He wasn't being incinerated and regenerating (Ala Sentry in Dark Avengers #13) but tanking the heat. Comparing the two is rather....wrong.

The heat of the Earth's core and by extension the heat of Sakaar's core, is hotter than the Sun?

I was mostly joking... mostly. 😛

But yes, the Earth's core is hotter than the sun.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Who are these swordsmen that have tooled Wolverine? The last time Wolverine fought Shingen he beat him soundly and was only hit once. This shows not only Wolverine beating someone who is arguably the greatest living swords master on Marvel earth, but also a considerable increase in Wolverine's own skill from the first time he fought Shingen in his original miniseries.

A few weeks of training his rusty swords skills, was enough to soundly bump him above Silver Samurai (arguably the greatest living sword master before Shingen was resurrected) in swordsman ship, and Logan is much better with his claws than a sword.

He also disarmed Lazaer while fighting a copy of his own skillset. Given that Lazaer is the angel of death and has killed everyone who's ever died that's somethin.

Also easily disarmed a fully demonized Ogun without effort and Ogun was stated to be a match for the greatest swordsmen who ever lived.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I was mostly joking... mostly. 😛

But yes, the Earth's core is hotter than the sun.

You'd best be joking. Don't let me catch you being stupid again or I'll.....

Since when is the Earth's core hotter than the Sun?

A weakened Wolverine who could barely stand tanked the full power blasted from Storm's fake Mjolnir when she was under Loki's control, even with his messily healing factor back in the 80s. He waded straight through it. As though Blader could take him down. 😈

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You'd best be joking. Don't let me catch you being stupid again or I'll.....

Since when is the Earth's core hotter than the Sun?

Since always? 🙂

The hottest place on the earth, isn't the sun. 😄

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm assuming your joking as you seem to be a sensible enough fellow.

Otherwise.....

Pretty much.... Like I said, I pulled the example to make my point more effective.... Obviously that backfired cause I forgot how ODG takes every statement ever uttered under scrupulous seriousness.

No one puts any credence into Wolverine walking out of a molten vat of metal nonetheless I really don't think Balder's light projection is going to be his go-to tactic if some 40+ years ofcomic history of the character is any indication.... If he has more appearances and uses this as a typical tactic then I'll gladly withdrawal my statement about that, but as of right now all we have to go off of is his history... 😬

And historically speaking (sans enchantments) Balder isn't the kind of guy who's going to be taking a healthy majority from someone like Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Since always? 🙂

The hottest place on the earth, isn't the sun. 😄

Really? I'd have guessed the Sun was a fair deal hotter than the Earth. I don't even understand how it'd make sense for the Earth's core to be hotter than the Sun. Have any proof to back that up?

Touche you sneaky bastard.

So no one gets confused, and because the context of the last time I brought up the Hulk and the core heat thing isn't in this thread. The Earth's core is hotter than the outer layer of the Sun, not the core of the Sun.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? I'd have guessed the Sun was a fair deal hotter than the Earth. I don't even understand how it'd make sense for the Earth's core to be hotter than the Sun. Have any proof to back that up?

Touche you sneaky bastard.

I think the core of the Earth is hotter than the outer most layer of the sun, but the sun's core is exponentially hotter.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So no one gets confused, and because the context of the last time I brought up the Hulk and the core heat thing isn't in this thread. The Earth's core is hotter than the outer layer of the Sun, not the core of the Sun.

😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Since always? 🙂

The hottest place on the earth, isn't the sun. 😄

Technically, neither is the core.

That's the hottest place in the Earth. 😛

Originally posted by jinzin
Pretty much.... Like I said, I pulled the example to make my point more effective.... Obviously that backfired cause I forgot how ODG takes every statement ever uttered under scrupulous seriousness.

No one puts any credence into Wolverine walking out of a molten vat of metal nonetheless I really don't think Balder's light projection is going to be his go-to tactic if some 40+ years ofcomic history of the character is any indication.... If he has more appearances and uses this as a typical tactic then I'll gladly withdrawal my statement about that, but as of right now all we have to go off of is his history... 😬

And historically speaking (sans enchantments) Balder isn't the kind of guy who's going to be taking a healthy majority from someone like Wolverine.

Okay.

I don't think so either, however the fact that he used in the last issue does give it some precedent. I think he'll use it a few times in ten fights but not from the get go. Probably half way through the fight or near the end of their battles.

In a Wolverine comic I'd doubt Balder would defeat Logan but on here, I think Balder has the tools necessary for a convincing argument that he wins the majority to be made.

Originally posted by jinzin
Pretty much.... Like I said, I pulled the example to make my point more effective.... Obviously that backfired cause I forgot how ODG takes every statement ever uttered under scrupulous seriousness.

No one puts any credence into Wolverine walking out of a molten vat of metal nonetheless I really don't think Balder's light projection is going to be his go-to tactic if some 40+ years ofcomic history of the character is any indication.... If he has more appearances and uses this as a typical tactic then I'll gladly withdrawal my statement about that, but as of right now all we have to go off of is his history... 😬

And historically speaking (sans enchantments) Balder isn't the kind of guy who's going to be taking a healthy majority from someone like Wolverine.

As it stands, Balder has light powers. Balder can use light powers. Balder using light powers isn't as stupid as Wolverine climbing out of a molten steel vat.

Thor needing all day to ko Wolverine is outright stupid.

Stop insulting your own intelligence, seriously.

Thor needing all day to knock out Logan is ridiculous.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So no one gets confused, and because the context of the last time I brought up the Hulk and the core heat thing isn't in this thread. The Earth's core is hotter than the outer layer of the Sun, not the core of the Sun.

I knew that.

However it seemed you were arguing that the core was hotter than the Sun altogether which seemed.....silly.

Apocalypse said Hulk and Wolverine could fight for an eternity an there might never be a victor. Thor taking a day to ko Wolverine is generous. 😈

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay.

I don't think so either, however the fact that he used in the last issue does give it some precedent. I think he'll use it a few times in ten fights but not from the get go. Probably half way through the fight or near the end of their battles.

In a Wolverine comic I'd doubt Balder would defeat Logan but on here, I think Balder has the tools necessary for a convincing argument that he wins the majority to be made.

Pretty much on point with MHO.

I'd imagine he might use those powers 2 maybe 3 times and that's being EXTREMELY generous to him just based on the recent issue.

On here I don't doubt Balder has the tools to defeat Wolverine I just don't see him doing it for the majority.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. I forgot how easy it is for you to stick your foot in your own mouth. And suggesting that you've stepped back from it and was just being playful when you're turning right around to defend such idiocy isn't exactly consistent.

As it stands, Balder has light powers. Balder can use light powers. Balder using light powers isn't as stupid as Wolverine climbing out of a molten steel vat.

Thor needing all day to ko Wolverine is outright stupid.

Stop insulting your own intelligence, seriously.

Again you missed the point actually being made in place of the interpretations of some strawman made by your arrogance... sad really. Oh well, at least Rage got it. 🙂
Anyone can go back on check any Wolverine fan's interpretation of him pulling a terminator out of the metal on these boards and any one of them ain't giving it credence, we all thought it was stupid.

I didn't say Thor would take all day to KO Logan, now you're not even addressing the right person.