Classic Mangog vs. Tyrant (depowered)

Started by Merlyn27 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said it did nothing. It obviously affected him so you're wrong.
Stop trolling for the sake of trolling, or I'll report you again.

I acknowledged EXACTLY what Thanos's blast did to Galactus... It moved him. NO lasting damage was dealt. I also acknowledged EXACTLY what Galactus's blast did to Thanos... It owned him so severely that he was BEGGING not to be blasted again. These are the FACTS.

So please, either bring up something relevant, or stop posting. Your trolling is boresome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's very impressive and all happened pre imperative upgrade.
So did Thanos's fights with Odin and Tyrant, genius. You're excellent at bringing up irrelevant points. 👆

Originally posted by Merlyn
Uhuh, but Odin was STILL unable to put Thanos down for any length of time, despite their extended battle (same goes for Tyrant.) Whereas Galactus put Thanos down with a SINGLE blast...Despite T's shielding being up. That in itself should demonstrate the vast difference in power between the parties involved.

AGAIN: Thanos's blast did NOTHING to Galactus except move him. Galactus's blast nearly killed Thanos.

What isn't computing?

Again, Thanos couldn't BUDGE Odin yet he sent Galactus reeling. Thanos didn't hurt Odin at all either you know that right?

More examples of "common foe" argument fail were provided for you too.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Stop trolling for the sake of trolling, or I'll report you again.

I acknowledged EXACTLY what Thanos's blast did to Galactus... It moved him. NO lasting damage was dealt. I also acknowledged EXACTLY what Galactus's blast did to Thanos... It owned him so severely that he was BEGGING not to be blasted again. These are the FACTS.

So please, either bring up something relevant, or stop posting. Your trolling is boresome.

So did Thanos's fights with Odin and Tyrant, genius. You're excellent at bringing up irrelevant points. 👆

So you just changed from nothing to moved him. I just had an issue with you saying it was nothing when it wasn't. Report away you seem to bash left and right and seem to think you can report others while breaking rules left and right. Grow up too I can't stand posters who threaten others with reporting them it's childish and gradeschool behavior.

Galactus is more powerful than both Tyrant and Odin but Tyrant is powerful enough to best Galactus unlike Odin.

Tyrant is more powerful than Mangog which is relevant to this thread, sport.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again, Thanos couldn't BUDGE Odin yet he sent Galactus reeling.
So Thanos's blast moving Galactus, but causing him NO harm whatsoever somehow outweighs the fact that Galactus got RIGHT UP, completely UNINJURED, and proceeded to nearly KILL Thanos with a SINGLE blast..?

Lol, your logic is flawed on so many levels that it is laughable. Have fun debating with someone who still cares what you have to say. I'm over you. 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you just changed from nothing to moved him. I just had an issue with you saying it was nothing when it wasn't.
I've acknowledged that the blast moved Galactus SEVERAL times now. However, it did NOT cause him any lasting damage. THAT was the point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus is more powerful than both Tyrant and Odin
Glad we can agree. 🙂

Originally posted by Merlyn
I've acknowledged that the blast moved Galactus SEVERAL times now. However, it did NOT cause him any lasting damage. THAT was the point.

Glad we can agree. 🙂

That's vastly different than it did nothing which is what I had the problem with.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's vastly different than it did nothing which is what I had the problem with.
AGAIN: when I said the blast did nothing, I was referring to LASTING DAMAGE... And in that regard, Thanos's blast DIDN'T do anything.

The miscommunication should now be resolved. Time to move on. 🙂

Am I the only one who thinks Merlyn should post more?

Good show, chap! 👆

Originally posted by zopzop
That's fine. But the only reason he went to Galactus in the first place was to stop Galactus' experiment. No one is arguing that Galactus isn't more powerful than Thanos. The other thing I'm pointing out is, if you are gonna use the "common foe" argument it still doesn't help your cause. Sure Odin and Tyrant didn't one shot Tyrant but they also weren't sent flying through the air on fire only to be stopped when they hit a rock outcropping. T and A couldn't put down the Surfer and he was still alive when he channeled the Crunch energy (which tore up his body even more) to kill T and A. Yet Thanos killed him with 7 punches! Using the "common foe" argument Thanos > T and A AND the big crunch energies.

so.....why are you making such a big deal about this blast, exactly? what was it's effect? none, aside from the aforementioned 'it sent him flying'. thanos IS powerful, afterall. knocking g through a wall is pretty good, but, whatever. it did him no good at all.

going the t and a route isn't really a good thing to do. ss has jobbed in the past, like most characters, and he has his great showings, like most characters. thanos....does NOT job. to anyone. ever. he didn't job to tyrant or odin. THAT is what makes the g feat so great and again, we know from thanos's own mouth that he didn't want any part of g and that he thought his own power next to nothing compared to him.

contrast that with what he thought of tyrant then couple it with the performances against each and i think a pretty clear picture is drawn.

The other thing I'm pointing out is that Thanos DID NOT cheapshot Galactus because Galactus was aware of his presence and was about to attack Thanos.

i'm actually inclined to agree with you 😱

i wouldn't call it a cheap shot either. imo, g simply underestimated thanos and paid for it at the start. i suspect he knew thanos was no threat to do him any real harm and so thought he could just swat him away. thanos bit him first (ineffectually) and that was that.

Originally posted by Merlyn
AGAIN: when I said the blast did nothing, I was referring to LASTING DAMAGE... And in that regard, Thanos's blast DIDN'T do anything.

The miscommunication should now be resolved. Time to move on. 🙂

Then for the future just don't emphasize nothing since it obviously did a lot more than nothing. To knock back a well fed Galactus is very impressive.

Originally posted by Galan007
Am I the only one who thinks Merlyn should post more?

Good show, chap! 👆

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he is patient. we should start a pool to see when he uses his ignore feature..... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
so.....why are you making such a big deal about this blast, exactly? what was it's effect? none, aside from the aforementioned 'it sent him flying'. thanos IS powerful, afterall. knocking g through a wall is pretty good, but, whatever. it did him no good at all.

going the t and a route isn't really a good thing to do. ss has jobbed in the past, like most characters, and he has his great showings, like most characters. thanos....does NOT job. to anyone. ever. he didn't job to tyrant or odin. THAT is what makes the g feat so great and again, we know from thanos's own mouth that he didn't want any part of g and that he thought his own power next to nothing compared to him.

contrast that with what he thought of tyrant then couple it with the performances against each and i think a pretty clear picture is drawn.

Because of the "common foe" argument ODG tried to pull once I addressed his other points : Tyrant didn't punk Galactus and retreated or that Galactus didn't cheat to gain the upper hand in their final confrontation aboard his world ship. I addressed each of those issues and backed them up with actual scans.

Then he tried introducing extraneous arguments like : Why didn't Tyrant attack Morg or snatch the UN away from Morg. When I addressed that. He went on to, well Galactus got better after being nullfied but Tyrant is still dead. Then I addressed that too.

Then he resorted to the "common foes" argument. When I pointed out the fallacy of that, he was just reduced to name calling.

Originally posted by leonidas
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he is patient. we should start a pool to see when he uses his ignore feature..... 😖hifty:

😂 I remember when I was patient... Then I realized how awesome the ignore function was, and I haven't looked back.

Originally posted by Galan007
😂 I remember when I was patient... Then I realized how awesome the ignore function was, and I haven't looked back.

HA! funny how some time on the forums can change you a little. i used to be so tolerant. but yeah, that ignore function is like green eggs and ham to sam-i-am.

^ Sam didn't like green eggs and ham at first, though. I've loved the ignore function ever since I first laid eyes on it.

Hmm, there must be an encrypted metaphor in your post that I'm not sensing. Curse you, leo! Curse you!
g007-psyduck

What's all the fuss about? IMO, all the fights coincide with with participants respective tiers. I break all battles down like this.

1. Big G (high end cosmic) 1 shots Thanos (high trans) easily. Reasonable.
2. Thanos (high trans) vs. Odin (high skyfather), long battle, going downhill for Thanos. Woulda eventually lost. Reasonable.
3. Tyrant (low cosmic) vs. Thanos (high trans/w amp), quick battle. Thanos woulda died if continued. Reasonable.
4. First fight - Tyrant (low cosmic) vs. Galactus (high cosmic) long titanic battle. Galactus the victor. Reasonable.
Second fight - Too many variables such as Galactus making wrong decision using tech/Tyrant utilizing abilities specifically designed for G & practically no battle to speak of before these variables occurred to make a clean decision.

Everything fits well into place.

Originally posted by Sundipped

Second fight - Too many variables such as Galactus making wrong decision using tech/Tyrant utilizing abilities specifically designed for G & practically no battle to speak of before these variables occurred to make a clean decision.

Everything fits well into place.

Sundipped, check out the scans for the final battle between "DP" Tyrant and Galactus. It took place in three phases : blasting battle, physical battle, and finally tech war. The writer IMHO was trying to convey the fact that NOTHING Galactus did would save him from Tyrant.

Galactus wasn't saved by his Power Cosmic (Tyrant absorbed since it was just synthesized BSE), physical assaults (Tyant taunted him saying Galactus could rip and tear at his body all day and he'll just reform it but Galactus doesn't have that option meanwhile he was slashing up Galactus' armor), or his technology (Tyrant's technopathy > Galactus' control over his own machines).

Originally posted by zopzop
Sundipped, check out the scans for the final battle between "DP" Tyrant and Galactus. It took place in three phases : blasting battle, physical battle, and finally tech war. The writer IMHO was trying to convey the fact that NOTHING Galactus did would save him from Tyrant.

Galactus wasn't saved by his Power Cosmic (Tyrant absorbed since it was just synthesized BSE), physical assaults (Tyant taunted him saying Galactus could rip and tear at his body all day and he'll just reform it but Galactus doesn't have that option meanwhile he was slashing up Galactus' armor), or his technology (Tyrant's technopathy > Galactus' control over his own machines).

Yeah I read the fight. That's why I said he was "using abilities specifically designed for G". I don't think Tyrant would fare as well against any other high cosmic such as, let's say a non jobing Eternity/Chaos/Order/Death/top notch Celestial etc. Although he would still make it intresting.

Originally posted by Galan007
[B]Not saying he wasn't. I just recalled him making the statement I mentioned, but couldn't remember the context in which it was used. It was a question more than anything, because I could not recall (been a long time since I skimmed through that awful series.) I mean, I remember Thanos stating early on that Galactus was well-nourished, but between that statement and the 'blast heard around the world', Galactus seemed to expend a good deal of energy collecting the gems, etc. That's why I asked.
Nah you didnt, you just did your usual try and down play stuff routine

Perhaps instead of constantly b*tching about this board (seriously, that's all I see you do), you could try to contribute some of your vast intelligence to help it... Or is that beneath you? 🙂
Beneath me 😂, nice try at being a smart ass, its just boring now watching the same old tired bias posters and arguments doing the same thing over and over again.

I can b*tch all i want the same way you get to be a pretentious little shit all the time 🙂

Meh, if you won't call it a cheap-shot, then surely you can admit that Galactus was unprepared for Thanos' attack.
See what i mean about down playing facepalm

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Sam didn't like green eggs and ham at first, though. I've loved the ignore function ever since I first laid eyes on it.

Hmm, there must be an encrypted metaphor in your post that I'm not sensing. Curse you, leo! Curse you!
g007-psyduck

it's a seuss, reference, of COURSE it's encrypted...... evillaugh

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