Originally posted by quanchi112
He said Mangog. I can say Pak HOTM Hulk hasn't been defeated in combat either that doesn't make someone forget 99 percent of their other showings.
The thread however is calling for Silver Age Mangog, and you brought up a later version of the character. I don't know how well Tyrant would do against a G-Blast to the insides of himself, nor do you. Again this thread calls for the Silver Age version.
Originally posted by StoicHe referred to Mangog like I said if we went both certain arcs the same could be said for many characters so it isn't impressive. Pay attention.
The thread however is calling for Silver Age Mangog, and you brought up a later version of the character. I don't know how well Tyrant would do against a G-Blast to the insides of himself, nor do you. Again this thread calls for the Silver Age version.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Now, do I really need to start posting Thor's beatings, or the number of times it is stated that Odin cannot defeat Mangog?There are 2 more story arcs involving Mangog messing up Asgard, where Odin is actually involved.
But, I warn you, all that ever works against Mangog, all Odin is ever able to do, is mess with the spell. And, on one of those occasions, Odin dies doing it, AFTER he is amp'd by outside power Thor had to bring to him.
If you don't like it, I'm sorry. Go back in time and kill the writers.
YOU STATED he beat all of Asgard INCLUDING thor and Odin with ease... yet JUST AS I THOUGHT.. THIS NEVER HAPPENED. I remember the arc in question very well... I've read it.. Thought this is what you were referring to and knew he never defeated Odin. In fact, as soon as Odin awoke... Mangog was defeated with ease. Yet, for some reason, you're trying to act like you were correct in your statements. When in fact, you were not.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiOK Clownie.
YOU STATED he beat all of Asgard INCLUDING thor and Odin with ease... yet JUST AS I THOUGHT.. THIS NEVER HAPPENED. I remember the arc in question very well... I've read it.. Thought this is what you were referring to and knew he never defeated Odin. In fact, as soon as Odin awoke... Mangog was defeated with ease. Yet, for some reason, you're trying to act like you were correct in your statements. When in fact, you were not.
Kudos to you buddy!
Also, to those of you who are interested, while using Mangog's feats in comparison to the feats of other characters, remember that most of Mangog's greatest feats have taken place in Asgard, against Gods and Giants.
Now, here is the thing, Asgard has 3 times the gravity of Earth and real-space. Also, all matter is described as being roughly 3 times as dense, heavy, strong, etc.
Something to think about.
Originally posted by quanchi112I would imagine that is, unless we are using the claim to support your side of an argument.
No, it's the same character under different writers. When discussing a particular arc of any character you can claim he's never been defeated. It isn't saying much.
Hey! Do you like Thanos?
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Remember, this is a separate story arc from my previous posts.
Here is a taste of my future posts:
Looky here! Thor, knocked out, again. Neat!
And then, without even a coffee break, there is Mangog snatching up Odin, like a lil ole man.
And, yes, that is ODIN being mauled and tossed away by Mangog.
Here's another goody. Once again, within the space of two pages, Thor is getting PLANTED.
And, yes again! That is Odin unconscious. But, he is only beat up, I don't want to lie and let you believe that THIS is the death scene.
That comes a bit later in the story.
Originally posted by HorrificusHe was never invincible. He was tough to take down but you are comparing him to Tyrant someone who was beating Galactus.
But, that's not what I have been doing. The feats I have been presenting, along with Mangog's invincibility have been shown in at least 4 stories.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderHe couldn't beat either.
Classic Mangog would own DP Tyrant and Thanos at the same time...Horrificus has thoroughly cemented his argument...
Horrificus wins 10/10...
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0Tyrant is on another level to the point of being a threat to Galactus himself and winning their battle up until the point Morg interfered with the un.
I think classic Mangog takes it pretty handily.He was basically a Unimind-type being that was purely physical.
Don't see Tyrant getting around that with plot device.
Originally posted by quanchi112Many characters have been a threat to Galactus, but usually after finding some way to amp themselves by gathering power that is above their true profile norms.
Tyrant is on another level to the point of being a threat to Galactus himself and winning their battle up until the point Morg interfered with the un.
Due to his many feats, taking punishment and dishing it out, as well as the opponents he has defeated, I would describe him as being comparable to a much more powerful version of "Physical-Battle-Zeus".
(as per Hulk #622).
And, of course, with that physical aspect, Mangog still possesses his other abilities.
Originally posted by HorrificusGalactus actually backed down to him and prepared himself by being well fed before their confrotnation.
Many characters have been a threat to Galactus, but usually after finding some way to amp themselves by gathering power that is above their true profile norms.Due to his many feats, taking punishment and dishing it out, as well as the opponents he has defeated, I would describe him as being comparable to a much more powerful version of "Physical-Battle-Zeus".
(as per Hulk #622).
And, of course, with that physical aspect, Mangog still possesses his other abilities.
Tyrant would own that Zeus as well. Tyrant is just on another level.