Black Adam vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes it's cannon. I never denied that. However, it is obvious that if you have the necessary super human strength you can penetrate a beings skin even with a needle despite them being able to shrug off bullets. So Thor cutting himself by accident, or being penetrated by a needle doesn't actually mean anything in the large picture.

Correct about what? Claiming that Thor can't be bullet proof or something similar because he cut himself with a Wundagore razor or apparently was penetrated by a needle is clearly incorrect going by comic book logic.

Busiek was the reason why the only time Thor was penetrated by a bullet happened. According to Priest, he asked Busiek which Avenger should be shoot and Busiek quickly told him to use Thor apparently. So clearly blaiming Busiek for Thor not being bullet proof is not without merit.

This guy is adamant about such a silly point.

I'm not going to debate Thor vs Bullets in this thread. If you want to, make a new one or bump an old one(if there is?).

On the subject of Busiek, yes he(And many others) is correct, and yes it isn't his(And many others) fault.

Can't get any simpler.

Originally posted by Spire
I'm not going to debate Thor vs Bullets in this thread. If you want to, make a new one or bump an old one(if there is?).

On the subject of Busiek, yes he(And many others) is correct, and yes it isn't his(And many others) fault.

Can't get any simpler.

Which forum should I make it in?

Correct about what? Thor being vulnerable to bullets? Currently? That's lol worthy. Even ****ing Ares is bulletproof now.

There are like 6 instances where Thor shows that he should be considered bullet proof to one scene where he is hurt by a bullet due to Kurt Busiek and a scene or two back in Stan's day where Thor being hurt by bullets was possible.

It isn't that simple unfortunately.

Achilles’ heel again eh...

Correct about Thor was never bulletproof.

Originally posted by Spire
Achilles’ heel again eh...

Correct about Thor was never bulletproof.

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Except the 7 or 8 times that show he should be bulletproof.

facepalm

Stan had Thor running to the other side of the city to escape gunfire, state conventional weapons could slay him and had him consistently block bullets with mjolnir, even killing people and feeling emo about it afterward.

^Agree or disagree?

Thor was never bulletproof.

^Agree or disagree?

Originally posted by Spire
facepalm

Stan had Thor running to the other side of the city to escape gunfire, state conventional weapons could slay him and had him consistently block bullets with mjolnir, even killing people and feeling emo about it afterward.

^Agree or disagree?

😬

I agree with all of that.

Originally posted by Spire
Thor was never bulletproof.

^Agree or disagree?

Back during the JIM day's, I'd say it dependent on the story. I doubt he'd be killed by a bullet but I wouldn't be surprised if a bullet had penetrated him back then. In modern continuity is he bulletproof? Most definitely.

Thor has been hit and unharmed by bullets six times since Stan's days.

It should be noted that this shit wasn't consistent. Stan had him knocked out only by a mortar round despite all he went through, unharmed by a mine explosion, and there is the demon incident.

Like I said before. Stan didn't seem to know whether or not Thor was resistant to conventional weapons himself and seemed to just swep under the rug after time went by.

Why are you guys talking about Thor?

I was discussing Norrin with Kgkg, and Bran and Batdude decided to troll me with a pic of Thor getting shot. Then it eventually, it ended up on this topic.

Not just you, but all Thor fans.

I cried a little myself, tbh.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I'm attacking Busiek specifically because he was the one defending Thor not being bulletproof so adamantly, with his 'research' and what not.

I know of your examples. And I am arguing that they are absolutely stupid and impossible. You cannot instantly recover from a right cross from Hulk/Hercules and then be hurt by a bullet. It's impossible. The Bullet would NOT produce more PSI (despite its smaller surface area) than a punch from those monsters.

Oh, I agree with this..

When you get right down to it, it doesn't even make sense for a character with durability sufficient to resist cosmic forces like planet busting attacks, black holes, super novas, and who knows what else, to be affected by a mere class 100 punch, especially when the class 100 character is barely in the moon busting level with his fists, if they can even accomplish that much....

Superman and Captain Marvel? They should beat on each other all day, and do zero damage, considering their durability feats are so ridiculously above their strength feats..

However, if you get too rational, you'd also need to ignore Karate Kid as the poster child of "Does not compute."

A human level character who can fight class 100 bricks with his bare hands, and restrain Pre Crisis Superboy indefinitely, all thanks to the magic of martial arts? They don't even pretend to explain how he does it, it's all martial arts.

But I like Val Amorr, so that's where suspension of disbelief comes in... A big, huge heaping piles of suspension of disbelief.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Still, I'll always hate Busiek for that incident.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I reported you and Batdude for trolling by the way.

Nobody likes a hypocrite.

Originally posted by batdude123
Nobody likes a hypocrite.

I know. Hypcorites piss me off something fierce.

Originally posted by Spire
Not just you, but all Thor fans.

I cried a little myself, tbh.

They should be banned.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know. Hypcorites piss me off something fierce.

peaches

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was discussing Norrin with Kgkg, and Bran and Batdude decided to troll me with a pic of Thor getting shot. Then it eventually, it ended up on this topic.

Originally posted by cdtm
When you get right down to it, it doesn't even make sense for a character with durability sufficient to resist cosmic forces like planet busting attacks, black holes, super novas, and who knows what else, to be affected by a mere class 100 punch, especially when the class 100 character is barely in the moon busting level with his fists, if they can even accomplish that much....

Superman and Captain Marvel? They should beat on each other all day, and do zero damage, considering their durability feats are so ridiculously above their strength feats..

I had also once calculated how a punch from Superman likely generates so much more force, per square inch, then a bullet (I think this was in response to one of those "Wonder Woman can handle blunt impact better, that's why she needs to deflect bullets" theories).

You really can't think too much about this stuff, unless you're committed to simply having fun with it. Then it's interesting trying to translate superhero feats/powers into real-world numbers...I think this was a spillover from my "design a realistic starship" days.

Originally posted by batdude123
peaches

haw-som

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't you actually start the nonsense with the Surfer scan but when it's done to Thor you go crazy. Hmmm.

So I see your reading comprehension abilities have not improved in any way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was discussing Norrin with Kgkg, and Bran and Batdude decided to troll me with a pic of Thor getting shot. Then it eventually, it ended up on this topic.

Heh?

Originally posted by Blanket
You trolled Kg with the Surfer scan, and then trolled Batdude with the Superman scan.

Heh?

We were discussing Surfer's hand to hand abilities. According to him Norrin would beat the Thing and wouldn't need to resort to other powers or some other argument that's similar. I posted scans that proved that this hasn't always been the case. I had those scans uploaded. I don't care enough to go back and scan the entire page so he can feel good about the Silver Surfer. You then post the Thor scan for absolutely no reason than to get me riled up. I do admit that I hoped to get on Kgkg's nerves a bit with the way I posted but my post was actually serving a purpose other than trolling.

Three wrongs don't make a right but don't pretend as if I was posting those scans for no other reason than to troll. Like he did.

Regardless, I don't really care that you and Batdude did what you did. It was funny. I'd have probably done the same thing if I was in your position.