Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
I know his strength is derived from his magical power, but when have his punches been "magically charged"?
They've been written that way awhile now. When Billy and Adam were slugging it out in Black Reign, there was little lightning effects with each punch, and when Superman fought Marvel in Superman/Batman, Superman commented on the added magic damage factor.
Adams attempted beatdown on Superboy Prime also had the lightning effect, with Superboy pretending the magic hurt him before saying it actually tickled.
Originally posted by cdtmThose were his earliest showing he is more powerful now via experience. But even then he has some amazing feats back in vol 1.
See, this is why I claimed the Surfer who fought Loki was a weaker version. Because, no way would current or even post Earth versions of Surfer need to amp to match Things strength.
Originally posted by batdude123
Can we just cut the shit here and not pretend like Surfer doesn't get hit/tagged in damn near every single one of his fights?Along with being a peer to Superman in strength, Teth's punches carry the added bonus of being magically charged, which Surfer won't just shrug off. Not to mention, BA doesn't have any weaknesses to exploit.
The idea of Surfer winning 10/10, or even 9/10, is absolutely ridiculous given both of their histories and track records against characters of this level.
Why do you think Adam losses to Superman then?
