Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When he has the lightning effect coursing over his arms/fists.
Originally posted by cdtm
They've been written that way awhile now. When Billy and Adam were slugging it out in Black Reign, there was little lightning effects with each punch, and when Superman fought Marvel in Superman/Batman, Superman commented on the added magic damage factor.Adams attempted beatdown on Superboy Prime also had the lightning effect, with Superboy pretending the magic hurt him before saying it actually tickled.
Huh, interesting. I only remember seeing the lightning effect in the last one, and nothing happened so I thought it was an artist choice.
That fight with SBP never made sense to me. BA getting strength from magic doesn't make him useless in a fist fight. Maybe the magically charged damage is negated, but he still has magically-derived strength that should have an effect.
Originally posted by Spirebut it like...didn't....
You do know that could have come about via several different scenarios as well right?
to play into that is to assume surfer is in any danger against the thing.. lol. it was just an occurrence to make surfer meet with her coincidentally by way of her boyfriend making it happen.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It would hurt him. Not as much as it would hurt Superman, but I don't think Surfer will laugh off magically charged punches, much less the Shazam lightning itself.
Stun-bad? Pain-bad? Cripple-bad? I know Surfer fairly well, but I've only read Black Adam since 52. From what I've seen, he would definitely consider it as an offensive tactic.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
but it like...didn't....to play into that is to assume surfer is in any danger against the thing.. lol. it was just an occurrence to make surfer meet with her coincidentally by way of her boyfriend making it happen.
Err... ok. I'm really not sure why you responded as it appears you understood my point, but I'll assume you meant disagree and I'll address it.
The creative forces deemed Thing dropping Surfer was a sufficient enough solution to said "PIS" scenario and published it.
Also, Surfer would later go on to amp to fight Thing.
Originally posted by batdude123
Trying to use Flash as a means of comparison in order to say Surfer getting tagged is PIS is ridiculous.
dude the analogy is the same.
flash has been tagged by slower opponents consistently while surfer has also.
unless u think the thing hulk or namor have speed to match his reflexes.
as for the wolverine thing is as valid as lady shiva tagging superman.
even more when after a month of the wolverine fight thor showed no problems with quicksilver.
writers tend to vary.
Originally posted by Spiresure, but that was surfer back when he was new to fist fights. these days, he remains in the 100+ ton class without amping farther.
Err... ok. I'm really not sure why you responded as it appears you understood my point, but I'll assume you meant disagree and I'll address it.The creative forces deemed Thing dropping Surfer was a sufficient enough solution to said "PIS" scenario and published it.
Also, Surfer would later go on to amp to fight Thing.
he's like wiser or something
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Stun-bad? Pain-bad? Cripple-bad? I know Surfer fairly well, but I've only read Black Adam since 52. From what I've seen, he would definitely consider it as an offensive tactic.
Considering Captain Marvels first cheap shot on Superman in Crisis Times Five couldn't knock Supes out, and he needed to resort to a second full strength punch, I don't put much stock in the charged punches. MM managed to KO an unprepared Marvel with just one viscous uppercut.
Yeah, they're cool to look at, but they're nothing compared to the actual lightning bolts.
