Darkseid vs. Gladiator

Started by Omega Vision5 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman beat Darkseid in Apokolips Now #1, and Superman/Batman #13. In Action Comics #586 he resorted to battle field removal after Superman outmaneuvered him and beat his ass down. In Superman/Batman #72 he resorted to running away after Superman beat his ass down because he was scared Superman was going to put him back into the Source Wall or something similar *snicker*

He also looked noticeably superior against Darkseid in Countdown To Final Crisis Week #49.

Oh that's my bad. I meant fifth fight and not sixth fight. Superman kills him in Final Crisis by singing.

Superman rises above all other High Heralds from DC when work needs to be done.


AC 586? Lol. That was crap, Darkseid was weakened by an incredibly PISy attack: being hit with his own OE even though the finder beams are really just the equivalent of a laser pointer and Darkseid controls when the actual Omega Effect takes place which is just an out of character tard moment.

Darkseid didn't appear in S/B 72. Check your facts lol.

Countdown 49? At the very most Superman was shown to be DS's peer. A blast of the OE made Superman bleed and DS didn't want to waste any more time scuffling with Superman when he could just kill him with Kryptonite.

He didn't kill DS by singing, he helped shatter DS's final hold over the Multiverse by singing his counter-vibration, an attack that used up pretty much all of Superman's power btw.

I can agree on that, his jobber aura would mean Thor's ass on the floor if they fought.
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Darkseid, 6 out of 10.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid, 6 out of 10.

How do you see Gladiator taking those 4 wins?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
AC 586? Lol. That was crap, Darkseid was weakened by an incredibly PISy attack: being hit with his own OE even though the finder beams are really just the equivalent of a laser pointer and Darkseid controls when the actual Omega Effect takes place which is just an out of character tard moment.

Darkseid didn't appear in S/B 72. Check your facts lol.

Countdown 49? At the very most Superman was shown to be DS's peer. A blast of the OE made Superman bleed and DS didn't want to waste any more time scuffling with Superman when he could just kill him with Kryptonite.

He didn't kill DS by singing, he helped shatter DS's final hold over the Multiverse by singing his counter-vibration, an attack that used up pretty much all of Superman's power btw.

I can agree on that, his jobber aura would mean Thor's ass on the floor if they fought.
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Uhuh.

My bad. Superman/Batman #42. He has had his ass handed to him by Clark so many times I lost track.

At most his peer? Superman obviously had the edge physically in that fight. A direct blast of Omega Effect in Superman's face drew some blood. Yay? If Darkeid has been reduced to the point his trump card making Superman bleed is impressive, it's...well...sad.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49b.jpg
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http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49h.jpg
Thanks to Liam. Too lazy to scan my own.

Ha. Whatever helps you and Darkseid sleep at night. Dude knew he was outclassed in a brawl and resorted to Kryptonite. Pussying out is pussying out no matter how he tries to justify it.

If by losing most of his power you mean made his vocal cords a little sore, then yes.

A Superman who used his heat vision, flight and speed beat a Thor who fought like a brick. Superman not only barely beat him he also called Thor perhaps the toughest opponent he had fought. Superman and Thor are peers. Darkseid is well....below them both.

Also notice how in the third scan Superman walks through the Omega Beams as if there nonexistent.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you see Gladiator taking those 4 wins?
Beating his face in. DD did so in a few panels, Superman had him tap out which is one of the worst showings for someone of Seid's caliber ever, and Orion tearing his heart out, on top of Raker humiliating him in battle.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you see Gladiator taking those 4 wins?

By physically over powering him. Take away Darkseids eye beams and Gladiator would outright stomp him 8 or possibly 9/10.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh.

My bad. Superman/Batman #42. He has had his ass handed to him by Clark so many times I lost track.

At most his peer? Superman clearly had the edge physically in that fight. A direct blast of Omega Effect in Superman's face drew some blood. Yay? If Darkeid has been reduced to the point his trump card making Superman bleed is impressive, it's...well...sad.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49f.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49g.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49h.jpg
Thanks to Liam. Too lazy to scan my own.

Ha. Whatever helps you and Darkseid sleep at night. Dude knew he was outclassed in a brawl and resorted to Kryptonite. Pussying out is pussying out no matter how he tries to justify it.

If by losing most of his power you mean made his vocal cords a little sore, then yes.

A Superman who used his heat vision, flight and speed beat a Thor who fought like a brick. Superman not only barely beat him he also called Thor perhaps the toughest opponent he had fought. Superman and Thor are peers. Darkseid is well....below them both.

I have to agree that using k-nite to defeat Superman is him outright admitting I can't best you in battle by using my powers. This is closer than I thought.

Darkseid isnt Thanos; hes not walking all over high heralds like you think omega.

Originally posted by carver9
By physically over powering him. Take away Darkseids eye beams and Gladiator would outright stomp him 8 or possibly 9/10.
I agree that withoutu the omega beams Glads beats him for a high majority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have to agree that using k-nite to defeat Superman is him outright admitting I can't best you in battle by using my powers. This is closer than I thought.

I agree.

Also I edited my post to further humiliate Darkseid so quote the new version.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I agree.

Also I edited my post to further humiliate Darkseid so quote the new version.

Upon further review I give Glads the slightest of edges due to the omega effect not being the deciding factor it used to be years back.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh.

My bad. Superman/Batman #42. He has had his ass handed to him by Clark so many times I lost track.

At most his peer? Superman clearly had the edge physically in that fight. A direct blast of Omega Effect in Superman's face drew some blood. Yay? If Darkeid has been reduced to the point his trump card making Superman bleed is impressive, it's...well...sad.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49f.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49g.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49h.jpg
Thanks to Liam. Too lazy to scan my own.

Ha. Whatever helps you and Darkseid sleep at night. Dude knew he was outclassed in a brawl and resorted to Kryptonite. Pussying out is pussying out no matter how he tries to justify it.

If by losing most of his power you mean made his vocal cords a little sore, then yes.

A Superman who used his heat vision, flight and speed beat a Thor who fought like a brick. Superman not only barely beat him he also called Thor perhaps the toughest opponent he had fought. Superman and Thor are peers. Darkseid is well....below them both.


The Countdown fight really didn't show either as being unequivocally superior. We saw a pissed, not-holding back Superman's heat vision doing absolutely shit at point blank range. I don'[t need to tell you what Heat Vision has done to High Heralds in the past.

A light blast of the OE drew blood from Superman, not the most impressive showing sure but still better than you make it out to be.

If you only go by a few crappy combat showings and ignore...well pretty much the rest of DS's history, then yes I suppose you could make the argument that Darkseid is a High Herald. Basic logic would throw this out.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Countdown fight really didn't show either as being unequivocally superior. We saw a pissed, not-holding back Superman's heat vision doing absolutely shit at point blank range. I don'[t need to tell you what Heat Vision has done to High Heralds in the past.

A light blast of the OE drew blood from Superman, not the most impressive showing sure but still better than you make it out to be.

If you only go by a few crappy combat showings and ignore...well pretty much the rest of DS's history, then yes I suppose you could make the argument that Darkseid is a High Herald. Basic logic would throw this out.

No, based on the last 20 years or so Superman is superior against ds in combat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh.

My bad. Superman/Batman #42. He has had his ass handed to him by Clark so many times I lost track.

At most his peer? Superman obviously had the edge physically in that fight. A direct blast of Omega Effect in Superman's face drew some blood. Yay? If Darkeid has been reduced to the point his trump card making Superman bleed is impressive, it's...well...sad.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49f.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49g.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/CountdownWeek49h.jpg
Thanks to Liam. Too lazy to scan my own.

Ha. Whatever helps you and Darkseid sleep at night. Dude knew he was outclassed in a brawl and resorted to Kryptonite. Pussying out is pussying out no matter how he tries to justify it.

If by losing most of his power you mean made his vocal cords a little sore, then yes.

A Superman who used his heat vision, flight and speed beat a Thor who fought like a brick. Superman not only barely beat him he also called Thor perhaps the toughest opponent he had fought. Superman and Thor are peers. Darkseid is well....below them both.

Also notice how in the third scan Superman walks through the Omega Beams as if there nonexistent.

Damn, did they reduce darkseid power to mid herald level?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Countdown fight really didn't show either as being unequivocally superior. We saw a pissed, not-holding back Superman's heat vision doing absolutely shit at point blank range. I don'[t need to tell you what Heat Vision has done to High Heralds in the past.

A light blast of the OE drew blood from Superman, not the most impressive showing sure but still better than you make it out to be.

If you only go by a few crappy combat showings and ignore...well pretty much the rest of DS's history, then yes I suppose you could make the argument that Darkseid is a High Herald. Basic logic would throw this out.

Superman obviously had the physical edge in that fight like his had in 4 other fights. I think it kind of balances out since Darkseid's Omega Beams didn't do shit to Clark. His face was a bit singed though.

What makes you think it was light? He sure as hell looked pissed and didn't seem to be in the mood to take it easy.

Uhuh. Nothing short of severe retconning will restore Darkseid's reputation and power status in my eyes.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you only go by a few crappy combat showings and ignore...well pretty much the rest of DS's history, then yes I suppose you could make the argument that Darkseid is a High Herald. Basic logic would throw this out.

Dont you do this with Sentry and Thor ALL THE TIME?

Darkseid has always been Herald level since after PC/Kirby Darkseid

Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
Darkseid has always been Herald level since after PC/Kirby Darkseid
Pretty much.

Originally posted by Dr. Tyrant
Darkseid has always been Herald level since after PC/Kirby Darkseid

He looks more mid herald if you ask me. Superman was STOMPING him and easily at that.

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