I really don't see how Iron Man would take this in a straight up battle. It's been made clear time and time again that Thor is beyond him. Fighting Thor head to head is suicide.
The best Iron Man has looked against Thor as far as I know was when he absorbed Thor's own lightning bolt and used the energy to amp him to the point he was able to knock Thor off his feet.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI agree that the same shield likely couldn't take numerous lightning blasts from Thor before they failed. But Tony isn't limited to one shield.
Oh, I'm not debating Iron Man can't use his shields. I just don't think they can tank a whole lot of damage from Thor's lightning before they either fail or are destroyed.
Originally posted by Galan007
Oh you were talking about the 'attack' he used on Durok? My bad. I was only searching for lightning-esque looking attacks, so I focused in on the Fenris scan.
The dialogue Thor speaks in that scan pretty much state that while Mjolnir is a tool, that power comes from within. And besides the pillar of energy that crashes down on Durok, you can also see several bolts of lightning crashing into the trolls around them.
Originally posted by Starscream MNormally lightning doesn't fully encompass the beings involved before anything destructive happens. That's why I didn't think of it as a stereotypical lightning attack.
it was a lightning esque attack...even the sound effect was Krackthoom!
Not saying Thor couldn't use it here, though. He obviously could.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankJust noticed that. 👆
And besides the pillar of energy that crashes down on Durok, you can also see several bolts of lightning crashing into the trolls around them.
I still think Tony's shields/absorption would be HUGE obstacles for a hammerless Thor to get around, but that's a cool ability nonetheless.
Originally posted by Starscream M
it was a lightning esque attack...even the sound effect was Krackthoom!
And there's always this feat:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Random/ThorLightning05v229.jpg
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The dialogue Thor speaks in that scan pretty much state that while Mjolnir is a tool, that power comes from within. And besides the pillar of energy that crashes down on Durok, you can also see several bolts of lightning crashing into the trolls around them.
In X-Men Legacy he contradicted himself 😛
Originally posted by Galan007
Normally lightning doesn't fully encompass the beings involved before anything destructive happens. That's why I didn't think of it as a stereotypical lightning attack.Not saying Thor couldn't use it here, though. He obviously could.
Just noticed that. 👆
I still think Tony's shields/absorption would be HUGE obstacles for a hammerless Thor to get around, but that's a cool ability nonetheless.
yep.
i too have no doubt he could summon the attack. without mjollnir though i have heavy doubts he could HIT an IM who would be dodging and flying around as WELL as using shields and full absorption abilities. a massive sonic attack could seriously hinder thor followed by repeated high energy assaults.....
i do NOT see this as a sure thing for thor at all.
Repeated high energy assaults? When have Iron Man's repulsors or weapons shown to have any effect on Thor besides annoying him tops?
What type of sonic attack? If your talking about the one in Civil War that he used to put down Captain America and the heroes, it didn't slow down Hercules so I don't see why it would slow down Thor.
I believe I've read every single one of Thor and Iron Man's battles and everything I've read leads me to believe that Thor beats the shit out of him.
How this is not a sure win for Thor sure as hell boggles my mind.
Hell, War Machine has done better against Thor than Tony has. Of course Thor wasn't trying to hurt him as Loki possessed him and it ended rather quickly when he got serious.
Anyways, on to the battle:
The only thing Thor used Mjolnir for in Thor #3 was use it as blunt force weapon.
If Tony tries to engage him head on, it ends up not too different from the way that fight concluded.
Dude got cocky. In the past he tried his best to avoid any hits from Thor and tried to out think him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Repeated high energy assaults? When have Iron Man's repulsors or weapons shown to have any effect on Thor besides annoying him tops?What type of sonic attack? If your talking about the one in Civil War that he used to put down Captain America and the heroes, it didn't slow down Hercules so I don't see why it would slow down Thor.
I believe I've read every single one of Thor and Iron Man's battles and everything I've read leads me to believe that Thor beats the shit out of him.
How this is not a sure win for Thor sure as hell boggles my mind.
Hell, War Machine has done better against Thor than Tony has. Of course Thor wasn't trying to hurt him as Loki possessed him and it ended rather quickly when he got serious.
a sonic assault would affect him, imo. his uni-bolts have nearly ko'd ionic goliath and if he cupped his hands over thor's ears and let lose a fullpower repulsor blast that sure as hell would affect thor in a very bad way. since i don't see the liklihood of him ko'ing IM with lightning as being very high, (everyone he ko'd without mjollnir was pretty much standing still) he'd be left with h2h. tough to hit tony, especially if he goes auto-pilot and assumes nano-second-esque reflexes.
i'm equally boggled as i see no way this IS a sure win for thor.
Originally posted by leonidas
a sonic assault would affect him, imo. his uni-bolts have nearly ko'd ionic goliath and if he cupped his hands over thor's ears and let lose a fullpower repulsor blast that sure as hell would affect thor in a very bad way. since i don't see the liklihood of him ko'ing IM with lightning as being very high, (everyone he ko'd without mjollnir was pretty much standing still) he'd be left with h2h. tough to hit tony, especially if he goes auto-pilot and assumes nano-second-esque reflexes.i'm equally boggled as i see no way this IS a sure win for thor.
Hammer can absorb and redirect energy attacks, increasing the damage output substantially. Anything Stark fires off is getting thrown back in his face with interest.
anyway, here is old school IM easily absorbing a lightning blast from thor and amping himself to the point where he was taking it to thor h2h easily:
http://img684.imageshack.us/i/lightning1.jpg/
http://img24.imageshack.us/i/lightning2pm.jpg/
notice too that the wasp's blast was able to harm thor. earlier in that same issue IM's repulsors were also shown to affect thor.
IM has ko'd surfer via energy drain and amp, and he defeated terrax as well. he amped his old armor (by simply by-passing safety protocols) to the point where he one-shot ko'd a staggered savage hulk. his armor seized but he still ko'd him--and that was the ancient armor. IM has beaten damn near everyone at some point yet for some reason, he is being very short-changed in this battle.
focused sonics, multiple shields, energy absorption, the ability to continually pummel thor from above with high energy blasts. again, i see no way this is a sure win for thor.
