Wolverine vs. Tigra

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol, God forbid if someone suggest the fact Logan might lose a Vs. match on KMC.

Nooooooowwww you're gettin it.

Meh, it's really not so much that Logan could lose on the versus forum. Wolverine supporters know outright when Wolvie is in over his head, it has more to do with the fact of who people say he'll be losing TO.

The fact of the matter is that in most cases it's suicide to fight Wolverine for characters who

1) don't have accelerated healing factors or strict invulnerability

and
2) are limited to melee or minimal ranged attacks.

Cause being without 1 and stuck with 2 there's really no way to compete against Logan flawlessly which is how most people would HAVE to fight him in order to win. 😬

Like Tigra for instance..... If the most we can say about here is that she's:

Stronger than a tiger and faster than a cheetah (Wolverine already disecting a tiger after overpowering it)

Overpowered hawkeye (really do I even need to reply to this?)

And surprised kraven with her speed (From behind which was immediately met with a beatdown).

Then how on earth can ANYONE justify her taking wins here? Like... at all?

We don't even have to scrape the surface of what Wolverine can do to prove his superiority to her, and if her best attribute is class 10 strength.... uh oh is all I have to say.

it has more to do with the fact of who people say he'll be losing TO.

I'll note I don't think anyone said he'd lose.

Overpowered hawkeye (really do I even need to reply to this?)

From range, avoiding an arrow. That's pretty good dodginess.

And surprised kraven with her speed (From behind which was immediately met with a beatdown).

Not really, she then ignored his hit and was about to beat him down, and he only hurt her with a sonic stunner.

That's their second encounter, she's fought him in HtH before and done well.

Originally posted by BerserkersRage

@Q99,
Just let it go, brother. Some people on KMC won't allow you to disagree with their opinion (after all, unless you are a comic writer, isn't it all just opinion?). PEACE!

Yea, good advice.

For future reference, any character without: a viable ranged option, A) flight or B) a significant speed advantage and A) near to complete invulnerability or B) a healing factor; loses to Wolverine. Wolverine would clean sweep Tigra - 10/10.

And Beast has never been class 10. Maybe class 5... maybe, but even then closer to class 2 in virtually every incarnation of his character.

Logan wins no doubt.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For future reference, any character without: a viable ranged option, A) flight or B) a significant speed advantage and A) near to complete invulnerability or B) a healing factor; loses to Wolverine. Wolverine would clean sweep Tigra - 10/10.

And Beast has [b]never been class 10. Maybe class 5... maybe, but even then closer to class 2 in virtually every incarnation of his character. [/B]

Beast throwing a car :

Beast pushing some dude into the ground:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/11.jpg

Beast creating a shock wave by hitting the ground:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/X-Men009_05.jpg

Beast tearing metal:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/Defenders106-18.jpg

Beast swinging a tree:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/-page1116-.jpg

Beast lifting a tree made of solid gold (or part of it):
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/UncannyX-Men1980-07135-09.jpg

Beast catching something heavy:

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For future reference, any character without: a viable ranged option, A) flight or B) a significant speed advantage and A) near to complete invulnerability or B) a healing factor; loses to Wolverine. Wolverine would clean sweep Tigra - 10/10.

And Beast has [b]never been class 10. Maybe class 5... maybe, but even then closer to class 2 in virtually every incarnation of his character. [/B]

What about having vastly superior martial art skills?

Originally posted by Bentley
What about having vastly superior martial art skills?

That is only possible if your name is Gorgon 😉

Tigra ends up on the wall of the X-mansion.

Originally posted by 753
He loses all the time, but she is out of her league here.

lawl

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
lawl

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Originally posted by Batroc
Class 2??

Beast throwing a car :

Beast pushing some dude into the ground:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/11.jpg

Beast creating a shock wave by hitting the ground:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/X-Men009_05.jpg

Beast tearing metal:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/Defenders106-18.jpg

Beast swinging a tree:
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/-page1116-.jpg

Beast lifting a tree made of solid gold (or part of it):
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b462/BatrocBeast/Beast/UncannyX-Men1980-07135-09.jpg

Beast catching something heavy:

Nothing there really above class 2. Cars usually weigh 1.5-2 tons, throwing one 12 feet isn't a class 10 feat. Like I said maybe Class 5 but closer to class to in virtually every incarnation of his character.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nothing there really above class 2. Cars usually weigh 1.5-2 tons, throwing one 12 feet isn't a class 10 feat. Like I said maybe Class 5 but closer to class to in virtually every incarnation of his character.

You really think those scans show class 2 feats? I'd be curious what other people think.

those to me look more like class five feats. i always thought his str was a little over a ton, but those definitely showed he is a few above that.

That was more than 3 meters and it would take more than class 2 strengh to do that.

Originally posted by Batroc
You really think those scans show class 2 feats? I'd be curious what other people think.

The only above class two feat is the car throw, and even then not by much.

Depends on how far he threw the car.

So much for my BEAST IS CLASS 10 campaign.
What about that piece of falling building he catches, or where he smashes up the ground? I don't remember Cage doing stuff like that back when he was Class 3.

Originally posted by Batroc
So much for my BEAST IS CLASS 10 campaign.
What about that piece of falling building he catches, or where he smashes up the ground? I don't remember Cage doing stuff like that back when he was Class 3.

that to me was more the impressive feat. that slab of wall/concrete thingy should be heavier than a car. that was a pretty hefty size that he caught.

Seriously, what can Tigra do to him? Theres a 20 gazillion page thread on Gamora versus Wolverine and theres still people who think Tigra has a chance? Unreal.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The only above class two feat is the car throw, and even then not by much.