Originally posted by Q99
He was known for doing stuff like shooting a gun in each hand accurately in two totally separate directions before he got boosted.
Originally posted by Juk3nlow end showings happen.....we all know it, but sometimes there's a reason for it.
I think the problem people have is this.He can A) either legitimatley outreact SUPERMAN and FLASH
or B) be given trouble fighting NIGHTWING 😐If he's 'A' then 'B' is impossible, and vice versa. The two cannot possibly co-exist. One must be false.
Alot of people believe he is 'B'. And why shouldnt they?
Slade was introduced fighting the titans. He came in as a team beater. In fact, in the very first issue, he tagged flash, dodged starfire.....and all those other things people have such a problem with him doing.
people have to stop referencing his fights with a few characters like NW, etc as reason why he is only barely above them. Because one, I've seen slade whoop an enraged NW's ass in one move after tanking his blows, and NW himself says slade can easily kill him. And two, jobbing is always gonna happen when you have to have a plot go a certain way. One day, slade is whooping on the titans, then he enters NW's ongoing and he is his only opposition. NW has to win somehow, even though it was that very comic where NW said he could easily kill him
i always gave DS the thumbs up over NW b/c A: he wears prometheum armor B) he has a HF higher durability C) slightly superior stats D) he isnt hampered by morality unlike NW and bats..
none of those would matter to X23 since she is far more superior to bats and NW...
also i dont dismiss his team busting feats completely. i see it for what it is CIS/PIS effecting heroes and slade taking advantage of the heroes..
morality and experience can screw with any rookie power house... but when i see a hero using his surroundings weapons and other crap i dont assume it will work with another equally experienced hero..
bats has also embarrassed the JLA using skill, experience and tech i dont fully chalk it up to just bats being bats but various other factors
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i always gave DS the thumbs up over NW b/c A: he wears prometheum armor B) he has a HF higher durability C) slightly superior stats D) he isnt hampered by morality unlike NW and bats..none of those would matter to X23 since she is far more superior to bats and NW...
also i dont dismiss his team busting feats completely. i see it for what it is CIS/PIS effecting heroes and slade taking advantage of the heroes..
morality and experience can screw with any rookie power house... but when i see a hero using his surroundings weapons and other crap i dont assume it will work with another equally experienced hero..
bats has also embarrassed the JLA using skill, experience and tech i dont fully chalk it up to just bats being bats but various other factors
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i always gave DS the thumbs up over NW b/c A: he wears prometheum armor B) he has a HF higher durability C) slightly superior stats D) he isnt hampered by morality unlike NW and bats..none of those would matter to X23 since she is far more superior to bats and NW...
also i dont dismiss his team busting feats completely. i see it for what it is CIS/PIS effecting heroes and slade taking advantage of the heroes..
morality and experience can screw with any rookie power house... but when i see a hero using his surroundings weapons and other crap i dont assume it will work with another equally experienced hero..
bats has also embarrassed the JLA using skill, experience and tech i dont fully chalk it up to just bats being bats but various other factors
physically, yes, but so is slade.
No PIS, he's been doing it since day one and it continues to this day.
it worked with JLA.
not the same kinda prep. Bats devises specific ways or devices to take out opponents.......slade analyzes them, but most often still engages them in close quarter combat with standard weaponry. He just makes sure he knows them.
Originally posted by namorsubby
low end showings happen.....we all know it, but sometimes there's a reason for it.Slade was introduced fighting the titans. He came in as a team beater. In fact, in the very first issue, he tagged flash, dodged starfire.....and all those other things people have such a problem with him doing.
people have to stop referencing his fights with a few characters like NW, etc as reason why he is only barely above them. Because one, I've seen slade whoop an enraged NW's ass in one move after tanking his blows, and NW himself says slade can easily kill him. And two, jobbing is always gonna happen when you have to have a plot go a certain way. One day, slade is whooping on the titans, then he enters NW's ongoing and he is his only opposition. NW has to win somehow, even though it was that very comic where NW said he could easily kill him
Slade was introduced fighting the Titans with Ravager, and the two of them together didn't accomplish anything. Slade isn't a team beater, he wasn't then and he isn't to day. Virtually every member of the Titans has fought him on their own and either beaten him outright or given him a decent fight. He has never beaten the Titans, even when they were a bunch of green, inexperienced Teenagers. He's teamed up with them more then he has ever fought them, and they've had to save his ass almost as many times. When he does actually fight them, he has prep, and even then he ends up running away 9 times out 10. Deathstrokes best fight against the Titans, wasn't even him, it was Joe in his body. The Titan's sloppy team work, and them running into each other is what mostly gives Slade an advantage in melee.
Has Slade demolished Nightwing in one on one? Yeah, of course he has, but Nightwing has kicked his ass too. Has Slade put the boots to Roy Harper? Sure, but Roy has made him work for his win, continuing to fight with two broke legs until reinforcements arrived and Slade had to run away like usual. Without prep Slade isn't a team breaker, Prep Slade and none prep Slade are hardly the same guy.
Originally posted by namorsubbyit worked with JLA.
Just to mention the 2 more obvious ones: GL could have crushed him with a thought and the Flash could have crushed him before he could fire a single synapse.
PIS, crippling CIS and jobbing is what makes Slade great against such teams. He is nowhere near low herald, he's not even in the middle of the 'iron man tier', he is at best a bottomfeeder at said tier. There is no reason to place him far above elite street level.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade was introduced fighting the Titans with Ravager, and the two of them together didn't accomplish anything. Slade isn't a team beater, he wasn't then and he isn't to day. Virtually every member of the Titans has fought him on their own and either beaten him outright or given him a decent fight. He has never beaten the Titans, even when they were a bunch of green, inexperienced Teenagers. He's teamed up with them more then he has ever fought them, and they've had to save his ass almost as many times. When he does actually fight them, he has prep, and even then he ends up running away 9 times out 10. Deathstrokes best fight against the Titans, wasn't even him, it was Joe in his body. The Titan's sloppy team work, and them running into each other is what mostly gives Slade an advantage in melee.Has Slade demolished Nightwing in one on one? Yeah, of course he has, but Nightwing has kicked his ass too. Has Slade put the boots to Roy Harper? Sure, but Roy has made him work for his win, continuing to fight with two broke legs until reinforcements arrived and Slade had to run away like usual. Without prep Slade isn't a team breaker, Prep Slade and none prep Slade are hardly the same guy.
All that, and Slade is inferior to Elektra in every way.......oh, and slower than Nghtwing. I think you've made it painfully clear where you stand on all this.......
Got it 😉 🙄
Originally posted by namorsubby
All that, and Slade is inferior to Elektra in every way.......oh, and slower than Nghtwing. I think you've made it painfully clear where you stand on all this.......Got it 😉 🙄
The same place I always stand, the right place.
I think you need to sit down and read some comics, not just a Respect Thread because you are waaaaaaaaaay of base here. You sound like longpig.
Slade has trouble with streets. He has trouble with streets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than he takes it to teams, and when he does take it to a team there is usually a reason for it happening (ie prep).
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The same place I always stand, the right place.I think you need to sit down and read some comics, not just a Respect Thread because you are waaaaaaaaaay of base here. You sound like longpig.
Slade has trouble with streets. He has trouble with streets [b]waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
more than he takes it to teams, and when he does take it to a team there is usually a reason for it happening (ie prep). [/B]
1.how self-righteous and arrogant of you 😉
2.I read comics......then I make respect threads. so "don't get it twisted" sranky.lol
3. no, he doesn't have trouble with streets. There are almost always extinuating circumstances surrounding those fights(ie, slade not even trying, the opponent hitting and running, etc, etc)......but someone likeyou would rather say they "took the boots" to or "kicked his ass". even though they openly acknowledge themselves that they are no real match for slade.
but yeah, you're right. only an imbecile wouldn't concede to such undeniably sound statements like "slade is inferior to elektra in every way" or "Slade is slower than NW".lol
Originally posted by namorsubby
1.how self-righteous and arrogant of you 😉2.I read comics......then I [b]make
respect threads. so "don't get it twisted" sranky.lol3. no, he doesn't have trouble with streets. There are almost always extinuating circumstances surrounding those fights(ie, slade not even trying, the opponent hitting and running, etc, etc)......but someone like wouod rather say they "took the boots" to of "kicked his ass". even though they openly acknowledge themselves that they are no real match for slade.
but yeah, you're right. only an imbecile wouldn't concede to such undeniable sound statements like "slade is inferior to elektra in every way" or "Slade is slower than NW".lol [/B]
Not really, I just make a point of not saying something unless I know what I'm talking about. You should give it a try. 😎
If you say so. 🙄
There are more extenuating circumstances surrounding his fights with teams then there are his fights with streets. He fights teams with prep and he doesn't win, he almost always ends up running away. Without prep street levels give him trouble, and they do it far more often then he fights teams. That is Slade with out prep, a guy who is barely above street level and has a hard time with skilled fighters.
I said Slade is inferior to Elektra in every way save strength. That's just a fact.
i really havent seen any real good healing feats from slade which could be used in combat... elektra tortured and beaten gave BE a good fight and beat his @$$ iirc...
it depends on intellect i guess if he build all his toys that he uses against the titans then no she is not as intelligent as slade..
if it is combat knowledge, strategy it can be argued i guess
nice on the baiting though, nice try