Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Not really, I just make a point of not saying something unless I know what I'm talking about. You should give it a try. 😎If you say so. 🙄
There are more extenuating circumstances surrounding his fights with teams then there are his fights with streets. He fights teams with prep and he doesn't win, he almost always ends up running away. Without prep street levels give him trouble, and they do it far more often then he fights teams. That is Slade with out prep, a guy who is barely above street level and has a hard time with skilled fighters.
I said Slade is inferior to Elektra in every way save strength. That's just a fact.
Have you ever considered that maybe you don't always know what you're talking about?
naw, nevermind. it's way more logical to assume you're the only person on earth who always does........not self-righteous and arrogant at all. very intelligent as well 😉
"if you say so" is not a valid response to a well-known fact. I read comics, then make threads of them......or maybe you've never been to that section of KMC forums?
By "barely above streetlevel" of course you mean can easily take them out one on one with any real intent to(and has at that)? because all of them seem to think he can.......who are you to argue with them???
that's just hogwash and/or scatterbrain nonsense.......but you were close to being right I guess(not really) 👆
what healing has he shown in mid battle that would suggest he could keep going against some one like elektra?
i've yet to see him keep on trucking after being stabbed or any similar injury like getting shot...
intellect only applies if we are talking combat knowledge i dont see it as being as much of a difference here between the fighting gap..
Originally posted by Wild Shadowhe easily withstood a all out blast from an enraged starfire in I think there second meeting.
i really havent seen any real good healing feats from slade which could be used in combat... elektra tortured and beaten gave BE a good fight and beat his @$$ iirc...it depends on intellect i guess if he build all his toys that he uses against the titans then no she is not as intelligent as slade..
if it is combat knowledge, strategy it can be argued i guess
nice on the baiting though, nice try
she said something like "you're still alive....impossible"
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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
what healing has he shown in mid battle that would suggest he could keep going against some one like elektra?i've yet to see him keep on trucking after being stabbed or any similar injury like getting shot...
intellect only applies if we are talking combat knowledge i dont see it as being as much of a difference here between the fighting gap..
stab wounds don't even affect him. he has tanked gunshots too
and speedy and GA shot him all over with arrows to zero effect whatsoever
the starfire blast would depend how much she is putting into the blast as Ms. Marve/ironman have all blasted ppl well below superhuman peak or olympic.. we dont say they have a HF or far more durable we understand why he or she survived such a blast..
aside from that i would imagine that his promethium armor help take the brunt of the attack and his durability and minor healing factor did the rest..
i am not sure how or where the arrow were shot in his body with the speedy reference... i have no reason to doubt you but i am willing to take your word for now.....
so long as the arrows werent in none vital areas like forearms or shoulder.. because that would be disingenuous and here at KMC we dont try to skew facts like that now do we? 😖hifty:
tell me do you think slade can keep on fighting with a sai in his heart/chest, head or throat?
last i remember joker took down slade with a knife to the throat
Originally posted by namorsubby
Have you ever considered that maybe you don't [b]always know what you're talking about?naw, nevermind. it's way more logical to assume you're the only person on earth who always does........not self-righteous and arrogant at all. very intelligent as well 😉
"if you say so" is not a valid response to a well-known fact. I read comics, then make threads of them......or maybe you've never been to that section of KMC forums?
By "barely above streetlevel" of course you mean can easily take them out one on one with any real intent to(and has at that)? because all of them seem to think he can.......who are you to argue with them???
that's just hogwash and/or scatterbrain nonsense.......but you were close to being right I guess(not really) 👆 [/B]
Of course, but in those cases I usually just don't say anything. There is a reason I only post in a limited number of threads, these are the subjects I know about.
You made a Human Torch respect thread. Congratulations. Your Deathstroke knowledge on the other had is pretty text book lopsided Respect Thread nonsense. If your terminology. I'm pretty sure you cited Deathstroke "incinerating" a helicopter (which he didn't, he's blown a few up though), which I'm sure is a longpig'ism form the respect thread or another one of his posts.
I can argue with them because I'm the freaking Watcher and have seen every encounter they've had with Deathstroke? Streets have taken it to Deathstroke numerous times. It's not really a mater for debate.
I think I know what I'm talking about... I made the Elektra Respect thread. 😎
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the starfire blast would depend how much she is putting into the blast as Ms. Marve/ironman have all blasted ppl well below superhuman.. we dont say they have a HF or far more durable we understand why he or she survived such a blast..aside from that i would imagine that his promethium armor help take the brunt of the attack and his durability and minor healing factor did the rest..
i am not sure how or where the arrow were shot in his body i have no reason to doubt you but i am willing to take your word for now so long as the arrows werent in none vital areas like forearms or shoulder.. because the would be disingenuous and here at KMC dont try to skew facts like that now do we? 😖hifty:tell me do you think slade can keep on fighting with a sai in his heart/chest, head or throat?
last i remember joker took down slade with a knife to the throat
He's been taken down with bullets even while wearing his armor on multiple occasions.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i know.. deadshot took him down with three chest shots,.. iirc..plus his son tried to kill him his armor took the brunt of the machine gun fire but slade went down as well
i am aware some one here is skewing the facts.. i have half a mind to out right call him out
I've spent all day re-reading every single Deathstroke appearance in any of the Titans series (and there is a lot, and most of them are baaaaaaaaaaad), to see if I was just remembering wrong because of how off base some peoples opinion of Deathstroke is with my own. My conclusion is that even I was over rating him. Dude got beat down be Wildebeests. Without prep he simply isn't a contender.
Do I need to make a Deathstroke Disrespect Thread? Come on guys.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the starfire blast would depend how much she is putting into the blast as Ms. Marve/ironman have all blasted ppl well below superhuman.. we dont say they have a HF or far more durable we understand why he or she survived such a blast..aside from that i would imagine that his promethium armor help take the brunt of the attack and his durability and minor healing factor did the rest..
i am not sure how or where the arrow were shot in his body i have no reason to doubt you but i am willing to take your word for now so long as the arrows werent in none vital areas like forearms or shoulder.. because the would be disingenuous and here at KMC dont try to skew facts like that now do we? 😖hifty:tell me do you think slade can keep on fighting with a sai in his heart/chest, head or throat?
last i remember joker took down slade with a knife to the throat
I said she was enraged, she also said she was "out for blood" right before she blasted him. It took him absolutelly no time to recover, and also, like I said, she was amazed.(all this and more will be in my thread shortly)
some days it's more major than minor......some days it's not. I actually don't even think slade had promethium armor than. He's not evenn always displayed as having it. sometimes it''s just kevlar(I've actually seen bullets, arrows, etc easily penetrate it)
Can he take being stabbed by a sai? If he can take a blast from starfire to the chest(at least on a good day), what do you think?
His HF varies all lot, but even if he "dies", his hf eventually always brings him back.
taking an energy blast is not the same as taking a stab to the heart or brain.. and if he dies then elektra wins.. so what if he comes back he comes back all loco because of the trauma so it would be even worse for him..
anyways when deathstroke died or went missing he didnt come back right away it took him days, weeks to claw out of his own grave.. iirc..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
taking an energy blast is not the same as taking a stab to the heart or brain.. and if he dies then elektra wins.. so what if he comes back he comes back all loco because of the trauma so it would be even worse for him..anyways when deathstroke died or went missing he didnt come back right away it took him days, weeks to claw out of his own grave.. iirc..
It blew out his armor leaving his chest exposed, so he ran away. It wasn't his healing factor that saved him it was his armor, and he couldn't have taken another shot.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Of course, but in those cases I usually just don't say anything. There is a reason I only post in a limited number of threads, these are the subjects I know about.You made a Human Torch respect thread. Congratulations. Your Deathstroke knowledge on the other had is pretty text book lopsided Respect Thread nonsense. If your terminology. I'm pretty sure you cited Deathstroke "incinerating" a helicopter (which he didn't, he's blown a few up though), which I'm sure is a longpig'ism form the respect thread or another one of his posts.
I can argue with them because I'm the freaking Watcher and have seen every encounter they've had with Deathstroke? Streets have taken it to Deathstroke numerous times. It's not really a mater for debate.
I think I know what I'm talking about... I made the Elektra Respect thread. 😎
so you're still sticking with the notion that any time you decide to inject your comical brand of logic, you're always right? more power to ya man 👆
I've made far more than that......but I didn't make a Slade thread yet or cite anything on slade......so what the hell are you talking about? confused, much?
no, for one, there has been extinuating circumstances aroung almost each and every one of those fights. that's a fact.
two, you simply exaggerate those showings by how you choose to describe them. that's a fact.
and three, you ignore the fact that these people admit that he can easily take them if he wanted to themselves. that's a fact
Jinzin posted many scans in that thread that you apparently missed? I'm just saying, I usually skim through each and every appearance for feats.
also, so what.......that statement on elektra being superior in virtually every way is nothing less than ludicrous. My gut told me it would be pointless to argue with someone who made such claims...shoulda listened
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've spent all day re-reading every single Deathstroke appearance in any of the Titans series (and there is a lot, and most of them are baaaaaaaaaaad), to see if I was just remembering wrong because of how off base some peoples opinion of Deathstroke is with my own. My conclusion is that even I was over rating him. Dude got beat down be Wildebeests. Without prep he simply isn't a contender.Do I need to make a Deathstroke Disrespect Thread? Come on guys.
lol, and now you're saying you intially over-rated him? That's just pathetic
edited out....my bad
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
is it just me or some one really i mean really trying to put a spin on deathstroke and out right purposely trying to misinform ppl?
Some people just don't understand that Deathstroke with prep and Deathstroke without prep aren't even remotely the same beast. Physically he his like Steve Rogers, only a much worse fighter and sporting a pretty tame healing factor. With out prep streets can and do give Deathstroke trouble routinely. Even when he has prep all he ends up doing is running away in the end, usually because the heroes have to protect civilians from what ever Slade has done.
i never over rated him i knew what he was from my old 80's teen titan comics and some old comics from the early mid 90's.. he isnt what ppl try to claim him to be never has bn.. but i give ppl effort for trying to make him more and blow his feats out of proportion plus his modern appearances and feats help
Originally posted by namorsubby
so you're still sticking with the notion that any time you decide to inject your comical brand of logic, you're always right? more power to ya man 👆I've made far more than that......but I didn't make a Slade thread yet or cite anything on slade......so what the hell are you talking about? confused, much?
no, for one, there has been extinuating circumstances aroung almost each and every one of those fights. that's a fact.
two, you simply exaggerate those showings by how you choose to describe them. that's a fact.
and three, you ignore the fact that these people admit that he can easily take them if he wanted to themselves. that's a fact
Jinzin posted many scans in that thread that you apparently missed? I'm just saying, I usually skim through each and every appearance for feats.
also, so what.......that statement on elektra being superior in virtually every way is nothing less than ludicrous. My gut told me it would be pointless to argue with someone who made such claims...shoulda listened
lol, and now you're saying you intially over-rated him? That's just pathetic
edited out....my bad
How about you hit that Cap Locks / Shift key from time to time?
I'm not always right, I just don't post in threads where I might be wrong.
I'm not exaggerating low showings, I'm citing the majority showings accurately, you are exaggerating high showings.
And you've ignored the fact that they've all fought him and have had the advantage in some instances. That is also a fact, and a fact that carries more weight than a narrative citation.
Jinzin posted mostly some scans that I don't think are canon (but he does), and EotS Elektra which was largely believed to be Skrullektra until recently. /shrug
She is faster, more agile and more skilled. Outside of a slight strength edge, Elektra has him beat in every physical attribute.
Originally posted by srankmissingninAgain, you think you're right in every thread you post in all the time.......
How about you hit that Cap Locks / Shift key from time to time?I'm not always right, I just don't post in threads where I might be wrong.
I'm not exaggerating low showings, I'm citing the majority showings accurately, you are exaggerating high showings.
And you've ignored the fact that they've all fought him and have had the advantage in some instances. That is also a fact, and a fact that carries more weight than a narrative citation.
Jinzin posted mostly some scans that I don't think are canon (but he does), and EotS Elektra which was largely believed to be Skrullektra until recently. /shrug
She is faster, more agile and more skilled. Outside of a slight strength edge, Elektra has him beat in every physical attribute.
like I said, I knew it would be in vain.
Let's let these nice people have their thread back, what do you say? Agree to disagree, pal?
Originally posted by 753I apologize on my behalf. It's just smug "know-it-all-ism" is a pet peeve of mine. Most dicussion concerning who would beat whom in these matches are informed speculation anyway, not undeniable truths, but some of these guys think they're so smart that if you don't concede to their argument, you must be an idiot.
You people have sucked the joy out of this thread.
not cool guys. 👇