Originally posted by No End N Site
Seriously doubt Dante stands a chance against X. Maybe 1 X from a particular game, but a composite X? No...
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Originally posted by ScreamPasteWhy? You guys seem to be doing pretty well without me. 🙂
Needs more Acrosurge.
So, this is just standard X vs standard Dante? No powerups, armors, or special weapons? My initial response is that while Dante possesses superior melee fighting capability, X has superior firepower, durability, and strength.
I'm not sold that speed can win the battle for standard Dante. X and his peers can consistently react to some pretty fast foes, and have some measure of short duration, high-speed movement of their own (though a canon speed for X's dash ability has never been given).
''No powerups, armors, or special weapons?'' It is? What have they got on them then?
X first has to overcome his speed, make sure it isn't blocked by Royalguard then do it all several times in a row as the hits will be recovering at a fast rate.
Going out on a limb and saying that he can beat X with DT.
..unless one ends up in a drunken heap before the fight happens..
Originally posted by BloodRainI dunno. Because it wasn't specifically stated by the op, I assumed it was a standard vs standard battle.
''No powerups, armors, or special weapons?'' It is? What have they got on them then?
Originally posted by BloodRainConsidering that X has overcome a roster of speedsters, I don't see this being a big hurdle.
X first has to overcome his speed
Originally posted by BloodRainSo we're assuming that the character Dante can perform the perfect Royalguard against fully charged X-Buster blasts or a rapid-fire stream of X-Buster blasts? And Dante can do this perfectly every time even while magic-drunk?
make sure it isn't blocked by Royalguard then do it all several times in a row as the hits will be recovering at a fast rate.
Originally posted by BloodRainI guess the former is possible, though do we actually have feats for the DT? IMO, Dante has a severe durability and firepower disadvantage to overcome. I haven't seen enough evidence of superior speed to suggest that overcoming such disadvantages is possible. On the other hand, your latter scenario is certainly an option, since they've both been drinking magic-booze. 🙂
Going out on a limb and saying that he can beat X with DT.
..unless one ends up in a drunken heap before the fight happens..
Here's another bit to consider. In Maverick Hunter: X, X manifested the X-Drive for the first time during his battle with Vile. After Zero falls in battle, X taps his own limitless potential and spontaneously increases his own power dramatically. It was a permanent effect for the duration of the battle, unlike Dante's Devil Trigger, which has a time limit.
This is all assuming that X and Dante are in their "standard" modes. If they're both accessing the full measure of their abilities, then this becomes a stomp in X's favor.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Considering that X has overcome a roster of speedsters, I don't see this being a big hurdle.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
So we're assuming that the character Dante can perform the perfect Royalguard against fully charged X-Buster blasts or a rapid-fire stream of X-Buster blasts? And Dante can do this perfectly every time even while magic-drunk?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I guess the former is possible, though do we actually have feats for the DT? IMO, Dante has a severe durability and firepower disadvantage to overcome. I haven't seen enough evidence of superior speed to suggest that overcoming such disadvantages is possible. On the other hand, your latter scenario is certainly an option, since they've both been drinking magic-booze. 🙂
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Here's another bit to consider. In Maverick Hunter: X, X manifested the X-Drive for the first time during his battle with Vile. After Zero falls in battle, X taps his own limitless potential and spontaneously increases his own power dramatically. It was a permanent effect for the duration of the battle, unlike Dante's Devil Trigger, which has a time limit.This is all assuming that X and Dante are in their "standard" modes. If they're both accessing the full measure of their abilities, then this becomes a stomp in X's favor.
He's faster then Quick Man, more importantly his combat speed is faster then Quick Man's movement speed.Vids plx. The rain thing I disagree with on the grounds that it's a common effect used for characters who do not move near 5000 m/s, and that rain is not a significant gauge of speed next to having him outrun bullets, or other more definite stuffz.
His combat speed would be less than a full out run.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Vids plx. The rain thing I disagree with on the grounds that it's a common effect used for characters who do not move near 5000 m/s, and that rain is not a significant gauge of speed next to having him outrun bullets, or other more definite stuffz.His combat speed would be less than a full out run.
Combat speed usualy comes off those 'quick bursts'. Like X's short burst of speed via dash, Sora pulling off superhuman instances off speed while having above average running speed and DBZ etc.
Originally posted by BloodRainI'd like to examine this a bit closer. First, Mach 5 is Quick Man's cruising running speed. We don't actually know his top speed.
He's faster then Quick Man, more importantly his combat speed is faster then Quick Man's movement speed.
Second, I've seen the DMC3 prologue and I'm not sold that the rain example is an indicator of Dante speed. It appeared to be a simple choice of visual style for those developing that cut scene. One sees this kind of thing in action movies all the time. What other examples does Dante have of speed that puts him above supersonic territory?
Originally posted by BloodRainNo argument there, but then again, X's charged shots are pretty darn huge, easily 6 feet in diameter.
Well X will be taking magic-drunk shots, he wont be up to his best aim. (To note I was talking about a fight without drunk effects)
Originally posted by BloodRainYou've used this 5X figure before. Do you have evidence or an example of it?
DT makes his regen beastly, more so then it already is. Speed and strength are increased about 5x. (Worked out and are actually less then what his regen and durability are increased by) Durability outside gameplay has two examples; one is in the DMC2 trailer where he DT's and tanks a charged blast from Nefasturris, the other is Nero's DB which is in a constant DT state. With it he manages to take a stinger attack from Dante[strong stab from a strong person] without taking a scratch.
For durability, X has detonated a neutron missile while riding it and suffered absolutely no ill effects. He's given his power to humans who were, in turn, able to tank nuclear weapons. His armor can withstand lightsaber-like weapons. His peer Zero, of equivalent durability, can tank several strikes from giant blades with edges sharpened down to a single molecule of thickness.
Originally posted by BloodRainUnlimited, instant timestopping, intangibility, control over the elements, gravity, multiple shields that deflect nearly all projectiles or assimilate them, flight, control of tornadoes, the ability to summon dead reploids to fight for him, and the ability to generate soul body clones of himself are just the beginning of X's abilities. He has armors that boost his speed, durability, firepower and regen (yes, X has regen too) through the roof, and that doesn't even cover his instant-kill moves like the Hadouken and Nova Strike. This is just the tip of the iceberg. X literally has amassed more powers than the original number of Pokemon.
Don't see a stomp happening.
To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't want to see a full power X drunk. Most of the time, his power is checked by his mercy for his enemies. Take those inhibitions away, and you have what his creator feared most; a creation with infinite potential power that no force on Earth could stop.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'd like to examine this a bit closer. First, Mach 5 is Quick Man's cruising running speed. We don't actually know his top speed.Second, I've seen the DMC3 prologue and I'm not sold that the rain example is an indicator of Dante speed. It appeared to be a simple choice of visual style for those developing that cut scene. One sees this kind of thing in action movies all the time. What other examples does Dante have of speed that puts him above supersonic territory?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
No argument there, but then again, X's charged shots are pretty darn huge, easily 6 feet in diameter.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
You've used this 5X figure before. Do you have evidence or an example of it?For durability, X has detonated a neutron missile while riding it and suffered absolutely no ill effects. He's given his power to humans who were, in turn, able to tank nuclear weapons. His armor can withstand lightsaber-like weapons. His peer Zero, of equivalent durability, can tank several strikes from giant blades with edges sharpened down to a single molecule of thickness.
No doubt that X's durability is higher, what I'm driving at is that Dante or his DT forms can take on strong hits unscathed (From Nero's punches to beams and power-pokes) so the hits that Mega lands wont be fatal.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Unlimited, instant timestopping, intangibility, control over the elements, gravity, multiple shields that deflect nearly all projectiles or assimilate them, flight, control of tornadoes, the ability to summon dead reploids to fight for him, and the ability to generate soul body clones of himself are just the beginning of X's abilities. He has armors that boost his speed, durability, firepower and regen (yes, X has regen too) through the roof, and that doesn't even cover his instant-kill moves like the Hadouken and Nova Strike. This is just the tip of the iceberg. X literally has amassed more powers than the original number of Pokemon.To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't want to see a full power X drunk. Most of the time, his power is checked by his mercy for his enemies. Take those inhibitions away, and you have what his creator feared most; a creation with infinite potential power that no force on Earth could stop.