Originally posted by quanchi112
Even though Superman alone has tapped him out? See this is where you discount the actual showings in favor of ho wit plays in your mind's eye which has nothing to do with what the actual showings account for.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWhat showings do I discount? The fact is Darkseid has a whole lot of showings where he can't beat Superman on his own it's not like there is just one or eve two. This has been handled by various writers and some even say Superman is more powerful than darkseid which I tend to agree with nowadays.
Quan you really, really, really, really, [insert a hundred more reallys] aren't one to talk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What showings do I discount? The fact is Darkseid has a whole lot of showings where he can't beat Superman on his own it's not like there is just one or eve two. This has been handled by various writers and some even say Superman is more powerful than darkseid which I tend to agree with nowadays.
Of course you agree with it because that backs up your Thanos>>>>Darkseid argument.
Originally posted by quanchi112Darkseid would easily beat supes PIS off.Easily.
Yes, which also supports the notion it's not a low showing. I think it's a close matchup with Superman having the edge.Ripping Loki in half, or defeating the MM. Both would work rather easily to boot.
Orion has also bested Darkseid. DD curbed him.
Ds has never been superior to Thanos. I have no idea where you get that from. I could compare all day long but the topic would be lost to us all.
Give any example of what void has done besides one single showing that could put him on MM's level.If you want to take theit highest showing into account i'm sure DS has a higher one then void(I couldn't out his best feat because I'm not a big DC reader but I know he could beat void).And don't just give an example of void beating someone else.Give an actual argument.You always say he rips him in half loki style,or he does to him what he does to MM.How?Elaborate.
Everyone has their high and low showings including void.
Personally I believe a well written DS is slightly(just ever so slightly)more powerful then thanos.Thanos has stronger TP but DS has OE and OS.They top him.If both are well written then IMO DS should win(although be within an inch of death).
I'd wrecken it would depend on what Body DS inhabits. It seems that his physical power is wholly dependent upon what body he has. But his abstractual power is very great. In Seven Soldiers, he created an entire world within a black hole. Before Crsis, he waved his hand and created the Validus. In Final Crsis, he crushed the multiverse with his fist.
Originally posted by lightyeargeeBeast feats.
I'd wrecken it would depend on what Body DS inhabits. It seems that his physical power is wholly dependent upon what body he has. But his abstractual power is very great. In Seven Soldiers, he created an entire world within a black hole. Before Crsis, he waved his hand and created the Validus. In Final Crsis, he crushed the multiverse with his fist.
Originally posted by -Pr-So you think Darkseid can take all of the jla on and give them a run, right? Do I believe in the hated Superman more than you do right now?
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Originally posted by Black bolt zHow would he? We've seen Superman's speed more than able to dodge the oe long enough to send it right back at Seid.
Darkseid would easily beat supes PIS off.Easily.Give any example of what void has done besides one single showing that could put him on MM's level.If you want to take theit highest showing into account i'm sure DS has a higher one then void(I couldn't out his best feat because I'm not a big DC reader but I know he could beat void).And don't just give an example of void beating someone else.Give an actual argument.You always say he rips him in half loki style,or he does to him what he does to MM.How?Elaborate.
Everyone has their high and low showings including void.
Personally I believe a well written DS is slightly(just ever so slightly)more powerful then thanos.Thanos has stronger TP but DS has OE and OS.They top him.If both are well written then IMO DS should win(although be within an inch of death).
I don't have to we saw him beat the MM. We also saw him take on the avengers, thor, and an amped Loki who also amped the heroes. This all took place after he destroyed asgard and ripped ares in half.
The guy's a beast whereas Darkseid is nowhere near as formidable as the Void. Darkseid can be physically broken whereas the Void cannot. The oe can't beat him if MM's powers cannot and to make matters worse the omega beams failed against DD.
I love it you admit I don't read dc and am not up on the Void but i know Darkseid wins. That is one of the funniest things I have ever read. I guess you just have a gut feeling and showings who needs em.
Originally posted by lightyeargeeAnother poster used to make claims such as this.
I'd wrecken it would depend on what Body DS inhabits. It seems that his physical power is wholly dependent upon what body he has. But his abstractual power is very great. In Seven Soldiers, he created an entire world within a black hole. Before Crsis, he waved his hand and created the Validus. In Final Crsis, he crushed the multiverse with his fist.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you think Darkseid can take all of the jla on and give them a run, right? Do I believe in the hated Superman more than you do right now?How would he? We've seen Superman's speed more than able to dodge the oe long enough to send it right back at Seid.
I don't have to we saw him beat the MM. We also saw him take on the avengers, thor, and an amped Loki who also amped the heroes. This all took place after he destroyed asgard and ripped ares in half.
The guy's a beast whereas Darkseid is nowhere near as formidable as the Void. Darkseid can be physically broken whereas the Void cannot. The oe can't beat him if MM's powers cannot and to make matters worse the omega beams failed against DD.
I love it you admit I don't read dc and am not up on the Void but i know Darkseid wins. That is one of the funniest things I have ever read. I guess you just have a gut feeling and showings who needs em.
Another poster used to make claims such as this.
it isn't to do with Superman. It's to do with a CIS-less DS.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Annnd what IF they're finder beams? What special characteristic does have bring to the table?
they're not going to come back and hit him in the face.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That also shouldn't mean the characters he is facing aren't written badly. I've seen Raker create a force bubble over Seid's head to take that option off the table as well.
he has hands too, iirc.
and raker isn't part of the jla.