Darkseid vs Void/Sentry

Started by lightyeargee16 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
On top of that Sentry has resisted MM's best attempts at killing him so there's really no way he can beat the Sentry based on this. I don't think Darkseid is anywhere near durable enough to tank more than a few attacks from the Void. If the Void destroys him via MM it's over quickly or if he uses the rip Loki in half technique.

The guy also held Thor off with tentacles while he destroyed all of asgard.

You really haven't thought this out have you? All DS has to do is send his beams to the past and Destroy Bob before he becomes Sentry.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
You really haven't thought this out have you? All DS has to do is send his beams to the past and Destroy Bob before he becomes Sentry.
There has been no way to destroy the Sentry/Void as of yet so this is more unsupported speculation that's never been proven. It's also a tactic Seid has barely if ever used but even then I have seen them fail outright countless times in countless fights so chalk it up to wishful thinking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There has been no way to destroy the Sentry/Void as of yet so this is more unsupported speculation that's never been proven. It's also a tactic Seid has barely if ever used but even then I have seen them fail outright countless times in countless fights so chalk it up to wishful thinking.
This is a forum fight and since DS has done that before it is well within reason for him to do so. Let's not forget that Bob has no powers in the past and thus is a valid tactic. I"m sorry you wont' accept that DS is simply more powerful. Or how About DS just use the ALE to control the Void. That will work.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
This is a forum fight and since DS has done that before it is well within reason for him to do so. Let's not forget that Bob has no powers in the past and thus is a valid tactic. I"m sorry you wont' accept that DS is simply more powerful. Or how About DS just use the ALE to control the Void. That will work.
Void can also tear him in half and resist his attacks. You can't just state something like this and not have any proof to your claim. You need proof to suggest this would even work. We also argue in character here along with powersets not powersets alone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void can also tear him in half and resist his attacks. You can't just state something like this and not have any proof to your claim. You need proof to suggest this would even work. We also argue in character here along with powersets not powersets alone.
Darksied has already wiped out people's past before.It's not up for argument. You don't like the tactic, sorry for you. Void can't Tear DS in half if he's being Mind raped or Bob is killed in the past. Superman never Tore DS in half. Orion either. Also, Bodies, mean nothing To DS. He can inhabit anything. Stone, other beings, etc.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Darksied has already wiped out people's past before.It's not up for argument. You don't like the tactic, sorry for you. Void can't Tear DS in half if he's being Mind raped or Bob is killed in the past. Superman never Tore DS in half. Orion either. Also, Bodies, mean nothing To DS. He can inhabit anything. Stone, other beings, etc.
You have to prove this would work on the Void. If Darkseid wipes out Kailbak's past that isn't relevant for what would occur to the Void. Catch my drift?

Orion ripped out his heart and Superman actually beat his face in until he quit which is far worse as he had his will broken along wit his face.

Why didn't Ds inhabit Batman before he shot him or Superman right before he sung him into defeat? Why did the process take so long to take over Turpin's body? Do you read these comics?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to prove this would work on the Void. If Darkseid wipes out Kailbak's past that isn't relevant for what would occur to the Void. Catch my drift?

Orion ripped out his heart and Superman actually beat his face in until he quit which is far worse as he had his will broken along wit his face.

Why didn't Ds inhabit Batman before he shot him or Superman right before he sung him into defeat? Why did the process take so long to take over Turpin's body? Do you read these comics?

OMG. are you kidding? You said if he could wipe out Kalibaks past that isn't relevent for void? Dude they are from Different Comics. This is why we debate because they are and no way to tell. But according to the forum rules, what you are doing is called trolling. Of course if he can wipe out people's past, he can do it to Bob. DS was in a slow Kraggy body in FC. No need to explain that his speed and strength were nothing.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
OMG. are you kidding? You said if he could wipe out Kalibaks past that isn't relevent for void? Dude they are from Different Comics. This is why we debate because they are and no way to tell. But according to the forum rules, what you are doing is called trolling. Of course if he can wipe out people's past, he can do it to Bob. DS was in a slow Kraggy body in FC. No need to explain that his speed and strength were nothing.
Void isn't Kailbak nor do they have the same powers and abilities so it's not relevant. It's like saying Ds beat Desaad so this works on Superman. I mean you can't possibly not get it.

Show me someone defeating Bob in this way otherwise it's just speculation.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You took that sentence literally… you literally believe DS hand is as big as the multiverse :face palm: It's called a metaphor not a statement to be taken literally. Furthermore, you still don’t get it… what was messing up the multiverse and "being flushed down the toilet" was his prescence in a universe he didn't belong. Plain and simple and stated on panel. Quick questions so I can honestly see if you're being honest.

1. You agree that if you mess with the PRIME DC Universe you can mess up the multiverse right?
2. You agree that him falling into a place he didn't belong (PRIME DC UNIVERSE) is what was causing the complete mess of the multiverse?
3. He had to die in order for any of this to be possible?
4. Space and time had to be cracked in order for any of this to be possible and DS also didn't do that?

Please answer these questions so I can see how honest you are truly being.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
I didn't take his fist to be literally that big but it could have been seeing as how big they are. I took it to mean he was using his vast power to crush the multiverse. Everything else you are talking about I haven't addressed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here is an idea... how about you address that points that clearly contradict your premise and conclusion.

Still waiting Lightyear

Let is also be said that Morganna used what seemed like a time-based attack to try and destroy Sentry. Didn't work.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Let is also be said that Morganna used what seemed like a time-based attack to try and destroy Sentry. Didn't work.
Bob before he got his snetry powers is not Sentry

I don't have the comic in front of me, but if I remember it correctly, it seemed like she erased him from the past to kill him. But that didn't work either. Not so sure about it, but I'm sure she alluded to that.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I don't have the comic in front of me, but if I remember it correctly, it seemed like she erased him from the past to kill him. But that didn't work either. Not so sure about it, but I'm sure she alluded to that.
The Omega Effect does not erase from existence. It erases the being from ever being.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
The Omega Effect does not erase from existence. It erases the being from ever being.

Suuuure didnt work too well on Doomsday, tho.

Again, I need some1 to post the Morgan Le Fey fight before I can debate on this feat, I'm not too sure she did it that way (tho she did allude to it, if I can recall).

Edit. I meant Doomsday.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I admit I'm not as adept at DS's showings as some are. But of the showings I HAVE read about, I've noticed that you took them wayyy out of context/proportion and exaggerated to make them seem more. The Infinity Man feat was BFR (I never consider BFR as a decisive win, more like a technical win, hardly the "dismissing" instance you allude to), Orion and Firestorm are NOT as powerful a herald as you can get. While Orion might be at high-herald lvl, Firestorm is mid-herald. Btw, you must know that Orion has has held his own against DS as well. Also, Ppl get one-shotted all the time, PIS/low showings should not be included as standard/average showings. I'll have quan go thru your list of feats, I'm not as adept at scrutinizing DS's feats as he is.

I'd like to believe your list of feats, but they drip of bias/ignoring of context/exaggeration.

I'm always respectful of ppl's opinions, tho. And I see Void/DS as a good fight (unlike some ppl who allude to a stomp on one side or the other). One has a strong, fast, accurate one-shot power, the other has immense, unmatched durability.

It's notmy job to care of you believe what I posted. Ts my job to state the facts. They can allbe validated in the 4- respect thread. Quan is ver biased against certain haracters and DC as a whole and his summation of events are skewed and alarming and not to be taken seriously. He Thinks Thanos beats Odin for crying out loud.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Suuuure didnt work too well on Doomsday, tho.

Again, I need some1 to post the Morgan Le Fey fight before I can debate on this feat, I'm not too sure she did it that way (tho she did allude to it, if I can recall).

Edit. I meant Doomsday.

Didn't know DS was attempting to wipe out doomsday. It looked as if he was pummeling him with concussive force. Which according to countdown killed Doomsday.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Didn't know DS was attempting to wipe out doomsday. It looked as if he was pummeling him with concussive force. Which according to countdown killed Doomsday.

You have ZERO clue what you're talking about. DS never ever pummled Doomsday and it's clear you didn't read it. Furthermore, he never killed Doomsday.

As far my post which you ignored, that contradicts your whole premise about DS effecting the multiverse with his own power... concession accepted.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have ZERO clue what you're talking about. DS never ever pummled Doomsday and it's clear you didn't read it. Furthermore, he never killed Doomsday.

As far my post which you ignored, that contradicts your whole premise about DS effecting the multiverse with his own power... concession accepted.

you insult for no reason.DS clearly PUmmelled DD with concussive force. No wipe out was stated.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have ZERO clue what you're talking about. DS never ever pummled Doomsday and it's clear you didn't read it. Furthermore, he never killed Doomsday.

As far my post which you ignored, that contradicts your whole premise about DS effecting the multiverse with his own power... concession accepted.


He wasn't saying Darkseid literally pummeled Doomsday, he was stating that in his opinion DS was just hitting DD with a blast of concussive force.

Which isn't true as shown by the rubble that the OE melted which indicates heat energy as well. Its pretty clear that DS wasn't trying to erase DD, only kill him with a disintegration beam which demonstrates that Jurgens doesn't really understand the OE all that well and what it actually does.

But then Jurgens doesn't understand a lot of things so that's perfectly understandable.

I just gave out 14 more warnings for all the off topic posts, trolling and flaming. sneer

And I'm not saying who got warnings either. biscuits