Originally posted by srankmissingnin
AKA Thor wins because he is calls himself a god?Thor isn't a god. He is an Asguardian, which is an extra-dimensional being who was briefly worshiped by early humanity and has prolonged longevity thanks to the Golden Apples of Idunn. Wolverine is just as a much a "god" as Thor is.
Thor is a god. Logan isn't. That's not why Thor wins, though.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor is a god. Logan isn't. That's not why Thor wins, though.
Thor isn't a god, he just calls himself one. Lt. Warren called Wolverine a god. Does that make Wolverine a god? Or does one need to be worshiped to be considered a god? Because... Wolverine is the messiah of his own religion of extra dimensional alien race. Does that make Wolverine a god?
Wolverine is just as much a god as Thor is. AKA not at all.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor isn't a god, he just calls himself one. Lt. Warren called Wolverine a god. Does that make Wolverine a god? Or does one need to be worshiped to be considered a god? Because... Wolverine is the messiah of his own religion of extra dimensional alien race. Does that make Wolverine a god?Wolverine is just as much a god as Thor is.
Except...he is a god. 😬
I get that you like Logan and respect the character immensely and I respect that. To each his own. But to claim that Logan is just as much of a god as Thor is...well, it's facepalm worthy in the very least.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWhy would Thor fight like he has a healing factor that heals all wounds nigh-instantly... when that's exactly what he didn't do during their on-panel fight?
Actually it is essentially what this thread is. Thor limited to melee without the use of his hammer vs Wolverine would play out very similar to Wolverine vs the Hulk, only Thor doesn't have a healing factor. If Hulk fought Wolverine without his healing factor, he'd be dead and that is what will happen to Thor. Thor couldn't take the damage Wolverine dished out to WWH and keep fighting, and he can't deal enough damage to Wolverine to put him down before Wolverine does it first. That is the reality of the situation.Wolverine doesn't even need Daken. He'll take the high majority on his own. Wolverine is faster, more skilled, has a reach advantage, the potentially to one shot Thor and his healing factor will compensate for any damage he does take.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Except...he is a god. 😬I get you like Logan and respect the character immensely. But to claim that Logan is just as much of a god as Thor is...well, it's facepalm worthy in the very least.
Thor isn't a god. The Asguardians / Olympians and all the other pantheons are extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in so far as they were briefly worshiped by early humanity. This is all canon in continuity stuff... do you guys not know your Marvel "gods" history?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
AKA Thor wins because he is calls himself a god?Thor isn't a god. He is an Asguardian, which is an extra-dimensional being who was briefly worshiped by early humanity and has prolonged longevity thanks to the Golden Apples of Idunn. Wolverine is just as a much a "god" as Thor is.
But in marvel that's the definition of being a god. They descend from the elder gods born from the planet's primitive living mystical energies - the demiurge itself. His parents are gods and therefore he is a god.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor isn't a god. The Asguardians / Olympians and all the other pantheons are extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in so far as they were briefly worshiped by early humanity. This is all canon in continuity stuff... do you guys not know your Marvel "gods" history?
So you're sticking to the notion that Logan is just as much of a god as Thor, then?
Originally posted by srankmissingninAnd Wolverine is an extra-dimensional being worshipped by early humanity since you insist that Wolverine is as much a god as Thor is?
Thor isn't a god. The Asguardians / Olympians and all the other pantheons are extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in so far as they were briefly worshiped by early humanity. This is all canon in continuity stuff... do you guys not know your Marvel "gods" history?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor isn't a god. The Asguardians / Olympians and all the other pantheons are extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in so far as they were briefly worshiped by early humanity. This is all canon in continuity stuff... do you guys not know your Marvel "gods" history?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why would Thor fight like he has a healing factor that heals all wounds nigh-instantly... when that's exactly what he didn't do during their on-panel fight?
He can fight how ever he likes. He is up against a faster, more skilled opponent with a reach advantage and unbreakable weapons that can not be disarmed. If he comes into striking range with Wolverine 9/10 he will get hit first and the hits will do more damage relatively speaking. And If Thor tries to grab Wolverine and pound him into submission, best case scenario is he loses a arm.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is a being who is worshiped by an extra-dimensional race of of alien beings. So... enlighten me whats the difference?
Earth related gods in Marvel are descendend from the Demiurge and the elder gods. Logan's the product of celestial genetic engineering, not a descendent from the demiurge. He is not the son of Gaia and Odin who are textbook definitions of deities. He is not magical in nature.
Originally posted by 753
Earth related gods in Marvel are descendend from the Demiurge and the elder gods. Logan's the product of celestial genetic engineering, not a descendent from the demiurge. He is not the son of Gaia and Odin who are textbook definitions of deities. He is not magical in nature.
It's true that Thor is unique among the Asguardians in that his mother is one of the "Elder Gods," but even then Gaea isn't really a god either, just an immensely powerful byproduct of the Demiurge. Their origins are messy and convoluted (both Odin and Zues have taken credit for creating humanity - even though chronological humans existed before the so called "New Gods" arrived on Marvel earth through their dimensional portals) but the origins of the pantheons don't have anything directly to do with the Demiurge. They aren't even from this dimension, they just showed up on earth at some time or another after Demogorg and Set fought it out, and Gaea got busy with some of them.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He can fight how ever he likes. He is up against a faster, more skilled opponent with a reach advantage and unbreakable weapons that can not be disarmed. If he comes into striking range with Wolverine 9/10 he will get hit first and the hits will do more damage relatively speaking. And If Thor tries to grab Wolverine and pound him into submission, best case scenario is he loses a arm.
We have seen this before qand this doesn't end good for Logan.
We have seen Logans lacks the strength to pierce Thor's skin.
Poor Daken won't be even able to do a much if any damage to Thor.
A holding back Thor beat logan going it his best.
Must likley way Thor wins is be Ko
however i see him using logan like a club to bet Daken into a pile of mush and then sending Logan into ordit or myabe russia