Thor (without Mjolnir) vs Wolverine and Daken in pure Melee Combat

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's true that Thor is unique among the Asguardians in that his mother is one of the "Elder Gods," but even then Gaea isn't really a god either, just an immensely powerful byproduct of the Demiurge. Their origins are messy and convoluted (both Odin and Zues have taken credit for creating humanity - even though chronological humans existed before the so called "New Gods" arrived on Marvel earth through their dimensional portals) but the origins of the pantheons don't have anything directly to do with the Demiurge. They aren't even from this dimension, they just showed up on earth at some time or another after Demogorg and Set fought it out, and Gaea got busy with some of them.

What would constitute a real god in your view? As ooposed to the interdimensional travellers and the offspring of the demiurge.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
We have seen this before qand this doesn't end good for Logan.

We have seen Logans lacks the strength to pierce Thor's skin.

Poor Daken won't be even able to do a much if any damage to Thor.

A holding back Thor beat logan going it his best.

Must likley way Thor wins is be Ko

however i see him using logan like a club to bet Daken into a pile of mush and then sending Logan into ordit or myabe russia

Wolverine... has pierced Thor's skin.

Without his MC claws or pheromones Daken is boreder line useless. That much is true.

Thor wasn't holding back, he said he using his "fiercest" blows among other things. Also he didn't "beat" Wolverine, he just broke his mind control. At the end of the day Wolverine was completely fine and Thor was injured.

Thor isn't getting a hold of Wolverine without losing a limb.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor isn't getting a hold of Wolverine without losing a limb.

Originally posted by 753
What would constitute a real god in your view? As ooposed to the interdimensional travellers and the offspring of the demiurge.

As far as I'm concerned if you need a physical form, you aren't a god.

The Asguardians aren't even immortal without aid of magical items. Aside from the power difference they are pretty much the same as the citizens of K'un L'un. Extra-dimensional beings who live in a alternate dimension that intersects with earth. Does anyone think Master Khan is a god? Because called himself one, and his origins are remarkably similar to the rest of the new god Pantheons.

Thor isn't a god, and Marvel Dragons are aliens. These are just facts.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

On the forum Wolverine fights to the best of his abilities. 😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
On the forum Wolverine fights to the best of his abilities. 😎

So does Thor. 😎

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why would Thor fight like he has a healing factor that heals all wounds nigh-instantly... when that's exactly what he didn't do during their on-panel fight?

Originally posted by 753
What would constitute a real god in your view? As ooposed to the interdimensional travelers and the offspring of the demiurge.

Of course, even by that definition, the argument could be made that he qualifies:

😛 Nah, but really, if he doesn't possess the "godly" characteristics, ie omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, the standard of the "perfect good," etc., then why does that title mean more than "superhuman," "mutant," or any other classification that means "more than human"?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I can't even believe that this is a discussion. I mean, okay, if people think Wolvie and Daken can beat Thor in melee, whatever. But to suggest that Logan has just as much of a tie to being a deity as Thor...it's unheard of.

logan has been called the right hand of God (read: not some odin bullshit god, but THE God)

Also, logan is more immortal than thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So does Thor. 😎

Except for the best of Wolverine's abilities means he is free to cut throats, cleave limbs, puncture organs and sever spinal cords, and the best of Thor's ability means... I don't know, what? He is going to punch a bit harder?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except for the best of Wolverine's abilities means he is free to cut throats, cleave limbs, puncture organs and sever spinal cords, and the best of Thor's ability means... I don't know, what? He is going to punch a bit harder?

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The idea that Wolverine could beat Thor baffles and confuses some posters because Thor is labeled a "god." They hear the word god and they get a massive swinging boner, and come into threads with preconceived notions of what godhood entails. But Thor isn't a god, he is an extra dimensional being who was briefly worshiped by early humanity before the Celestials told them to back off. Hopefully the clarification of what Thor really is will help remove the shutters from the eyes of some posters. Thor isn't a god, not anymore than Wolverine is a god.

In a melee fight Wolverine takes Thor for the high majority.

Originally posted by Ize19
Of course, even by that definition, the argument could be made that he qualifies:

😛 Nah, but really, if he doesn't possess the "godly" characteristics, ie omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, the standard of the "perfect good," etc., then why does that title mean more than "superhuman," "mutant," or any other classification that means "more than human"?

What is the second comic?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Matter manipulate
Blow up planets in single hits
Move faster than light

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Read the stips, he is limited to melee combat and doesn't have his hammer.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The idea that Wolverine could beat Thor baffles and confuses some posters because Thor is labeled a "god." They hear the word god and they get a massive swinging boner, and come into threads with preconceived notions of what godhood entails. But Thor isn't a god, he is an extra dimensional being who was briefly worshiped by early humanity before the Celestials told them to back off. Hopefully the clarification of what Thor really is will help remove the shutters from the eyes of some posters. Thor isn't a god, not anymore than Wolverine is a god.

In a melee fight Wolverine takes Thor for the high majority.

Is that a joke?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Read the stips, he is limited to melee combat and doesn't have his hammer.

Not that it matters anyway

Originally posted by 753
What is the second comic?

Fantastic Force 3 or 4.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except for the best of Wolverine's abilities means he is free to cut throats, cleave limbs, puncture organs and sever spinal cords, and the best of Thor's ability means... I don't know, what? He is going to punch a bit harder?

The thing that gives logan any advantage imo is his healing factor which isn't enough here.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The idea that Wolverine could beat Thor baffles and confuses some posters because Thor is labeled a "god." They hear the word god and they get a massive swinging boner, and come into threads with preconceived notions of what godhood entails. But Thor isn't a god, he is an extra dimensional being who was briefly worshiped by early humanity before the Celestials told them to back off. Hopefully the clarification of what Thor really is will help remove the shutters from the eyes of some posters. Thor isn't a god, not anymore than Wolverine is a god.

In a melee fight Wolverine takes Thor for the high majority.

😐

Originally posted by 753
What is the second comic?

Fantastic Force 3, it takes place in the Old Man Logan timeline, which is why I wasn't seriously using it for evidence. Just thought it was funny that you used the fact that Thor was Gaea's son, when this scan was posted in the Wolverine Respect thread, with Gaea calling Wolverine her "closest child."

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Logan thought Thor was sabertooth i doubt he will punch any harder then he already has against Thor.

The thing that gives logan any advantage imo is his healing factor which isn't enough here.

Sabretooth has a healing factor. Which means tactics that would be near useless on Sabretooth and not worth attempting would outright end a melee confrontation with Thor instantly.

Wolverine hamstring's Thor? Done. Wolverine eviscerates Thor? Done. Wolverine opens Thor's the carotid artery? Done. Wolverine severs Thor's spinal cord? Done. Wolverine severs one of Thor's limbs? Done. Wolverine punctures a vital organ? Done. Wolverine lacerates Thor's eye balls? Done. Wolverine could potentially end this fight in a single blow.