Originally posted by Eminence
The Force has no bearing on a static level of technical skill.At all.
This is precisely why it is difficult to place individuals whose strength in the Force plays a more significant role than usual in their general ability with a lightsaber.
That's every single Jedi or Sith though. Now we only have grievous to consider.
Mm, I wonder how Krayt would rate. He beat an early CW Anakin once, he took down four Imperial Knights with sabers, and his students are quite good too*, so he was presumably teaching them well.
Legacy, so hard to compare.
* Talon, for example, always beats Cade in saber, just loses when force powers get involved 'cause he's a Skywalker.
Originally posted by Q99I would hardly call that a 'beating'. All A'Sharad did was deliver a single kick to Padawan-Anakin's face, momentarily bringing him to his knees.
Mm, I wonder how Krayt would rate. He beat an early CW Anakin once,
Personally, I'd say the best gauge we have to Krayt's technical skill was his battle on Tatooine with post-RotS Obi-Wan. During this battle, Krayt [then still A'Sharad] appeared to be more then a match for Kenobi in the saber department. In fact, Kenobi only 'won' the battle after he became visibly angry and ripped A'Sharad's arm off with a force attack.
...And based one the few saber-feats Krayt has accumulated since then, it's safe to assume his technical skills haven't diminished over the years.
Originally posted by Galan007
Personally, I'd say the best gauge we have to Krayt's technical skill was his battle on Tatooine with post-RotS Obi-Wan. During this battle, Krayt [then still A'Sharad] appeared to be more then a match for Kenobi in the saber department. In fact, Kenobi only 'won' the battle after he became visibly angry and ripped A'Sharad's arm off with a force attack....And based one the few saber-feats Krayt has accumulated since then, it's safe to assume his technical skills haven't diminished over the years.
So yea, he deserves a spot on a top ten list, doing that well against Kenobi in sabers is no small feat.
Can someone please list for me the people that Kas'im, Droma and Bondara beat of noteworthy skill in one v one duels. Narration only goes so far, just like "practice" only means so much. You might be the best practice player a team has (skills displayed in the Dojo) but come game time, you don't even make it off the bench.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiDarth Bane, for one...
Can someone please list for me the people that Kas'im, Droma and Bondara beat of noteworthy skill in one v one duels. Narration only goes so far, just like "practice" only means so much. You might be the best practice player a team has (skills displayed in the Dojo) but come game time, you don't even make it off the bench.
"Within the first few passes Bane knew he couldn't win. Kas'im had trained his entire life for this moment. After years of study, he'd mastered all seven forms of the lightsaber. Then he'd honed his skill for decades, perfecting every move and sequence until he had become the perfect weapon and the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever. Bane was no match for him."
Originally posted by Galan007
Darth Bane, for one..."Within the first few passes Bane knew he couldn't win. Kas'im had trained his entire life for this moment. After years of study, he'd mastered all seven forms of the lightsaber. Then he'd honed his skill for decades, perfecting every move and sequence until he had become the perfect weapon and the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever. Bane was no match for him."
Didn't he go on to lose that fight though?
Also my friend... that is only ONE name opponent for the 3 I listed. Which is my point... narration and practice performances only go so far.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiKas'im didn't 'lose' because he was an inferior swordsman...
Didn't he go on to lose that fight though?Also my friend... that is only ONE name opponent for the 3 I listed. Which is my point... narration and practice performances only go so far.
"Bane hurled out a wave of Force energy he had been gathering during the Blademaster's speech. There was nothing subtle about Bane's attack: the massive shock wave shook the very foundations of the great Rakatan Temple. The concussive blast had enough power to shatter every bone in Kas'im's body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid. But at the last possible instant he threw up a shield to protect himself from the attack. Unfortunately, he couldn't shield the Temple around him. The walls exploded into great chunks of rubble. The archway collapsed in a shower of stone, burying Kas'im beneath tons of rock and mortar. A second later the rest of the roof caved in, drowning out the Twi'lek's dying screams with a deafening rumble."
But prior to that rather ghey death, Kas'im was tooling Bane as though he were a talentless feeb.
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And I chose not to comment on Droma or Bondera because I wanted to emphasize Kas'im's awesomeness. 😛
Originally posted by truejedi
Invincible: Pg. 132: "Luke was the one swordsman in the galaxy whom Caedus did not dare fight one-armed. "Insinuation that he would fight any other swordsman in the galaxy.
(side note: What do you think was happening with Luke in that passage? It was never explained. Was luke projecting his face onto Jaina? Or was he a solid projection like Alema always did? I was never sure. Neither was Caedus.)
get you more as I find them.
Wasn't Mara pretty much getting the better of him with saber, and only via force powers did he win?
I don't think Caedus was one of the most skilled for the list, just good skilled combined with a lot of power.