Originally posted by -Pr-
how is he stronger when she can use her speed to amp her punches?
Apocalypse is atleast class 100 at average size. He can grow in size and become even stronger.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I really fail to see how Apoc even lays a hand on her given her enormous speed advantage. She's currently somewhere between Wonder Woman and Flash in terms of speed isn't she? Or did her Zoom amp wear off?
BULL! She failed to dodge a bazuka. And this was in 09-10.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse is atleast class 100 at average size. He can grow in size and become even stronger.BULL! She failed to dodge a bazuka. And this was in 09-10.
The point is that low showings are low showings. Don't make me bring up the table.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
She's also been one-punched by Batman and restrained by being cuffed to a pole as well as being beaten twice by Catwoman in h/h.The point is that low showings are low showings. Don't make me bring up the table.
I don't see the problem with low-balling if y'all are high-balling her.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I really fail to see how Apoc even lays a hand on her given her enormous speed advantage. She's currently somewhere between Wonder Woman and Flash in terms of speed isn't she? Or did her Zoom amp wear off?
You've got it.
TheTyrantApocalypse is atleast class 100 at average size. He can grow in size and become even stronger.
Cheetah's also class 100+. Cheetah's power was used to *take down Superman* once.
That said, Apoc does have stuff like teleportation and energy blasts, so he could try the range game.
-Female Cheetah is this, but faster.
I don't see the problem with low-balling if y'all are high-balling her.
The thing is, she has like a dozen herald class fights, and two-three streetlevel ones.
It's not high-balling if it's the norm. She's a deific champion and regular opponent of a top-tier.
BULL! She failed to dodge a bazuka. And this was in 09-10.
Note that in that very fight, Wonder Woman couldn't hit her in an enclosed area and was being sliced apart, and she was not hit by it, WW just grabbed her while she was avoiding it/temporarily off her feat. Diana used the blast as a tactical tool to direct her movements but she was neither hit nor hurt.
Don't misrepresent, she showed very high speed in that fight, and it was an indoor fight even.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
I'm not low-balling and am not purposely recalcitrant. Those are her average showings.
You're employing the Golden Means Fallacy.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you have a character that can keep pace with the Flash and go toe to toe with Wonder Woman who then has some appearances where she gets one punched and beaten by streetlevelers the logical thing to do is not to assume that her true power level is somewhere in the middle but rather to look at the low showings as examples of shitty writing.You're employing the Golden Means Fallacy.
Yea, because Street levelers...
normally do so well against her 🙂
When 5 of the Secret Six are getting beat at once while the opponent's barely trying, then it's a pretty good sign they aren't facing a street level.
Originally posted by Q99
Cheetah's also class 100+. Cheetah's power was used to *take down Superman* once.
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Female Cheetah is this, but faster.
Either a low showing for Superman or high showing for Sebastian. That's exactly what I'm talking about. She normally doesn't win against Wonder Woman, so how is it that all of a sudden a weaker version of Cheetah manages to stomp Superman who happens to be stronger than Wonder Woman?
The thing is, she has like a dozen herald class fights, and two-three streetlevel ones.It's not high-balling if it's the norm. She's a deific champion and regular opponent of a top-tier.
I'm not sure about this one. Let me think about it and do a bit of research.
Note that in that very fight, Wonder Woman couldn't hit her in an enclosed area and was being sliced apart, and she was not hit by it, WW just grabbed her while she was avoiding it/temporarily off her feat. Diana used the blast as a tactical tool to direct her movements but she was neither hit nor hurt.
Don't misrepresent, she showed very high speed in that fight, and it was an indoor fight even.
My bad 😮
But what is Barb gonna do once Apoc starts to levitate? How is she gonna breach his barrier? How is she gonna resist his blasts? Matter manipulation?
Originally posted by Q99
Yea, because Street levelers...
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