^ So I'll ask you then: where is the line drawn between unproven statements and on panel feats? I mean, if you are agreeing with Kubik's statement that Celestials are FAR more powerful than he, then you must also agree with Spidey's comment that Sentry stalemated Galactus. Both are completely baseless and unproven, after all.
...Or are we to pick and choose which statements we believe, and which ones we don't..?
Originally posted by Black bolt zWith you I don't post scans only you. Others I have no problems doing so but I pity posters such as yourself who beg for scans while arguing regardless of having any knowledge on the subject matter.
I'll doubt you will.You never post scans even if was to help your cause.
Originally posted by quanchi112I didn't beg for scans.You don't post scans.Were you to post those scans I might admitt you were right.Until then concession accpeted.
With you I don't post scans only you. Others I have no problems doing so but I pity posters such as yourself who beg for scans while arguing regardless of having any knowledge on the subject matter.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CI was going to point out the grammar up top, but then I read your whole post...
quanchi112 is right, i dont why all the quanchi hate
hes an effective debater, better than the majority of people here i would listen to him more than anyone here
Nevermind that amirite?
Originally posted by Galan007
^ So I'll ask you then: where is the line drawn between unproven statements and on panel feats? I mean, if you are agreeing with Kubik's statement that Celestials are FAR more powerful than he, then you must also agree with Spidey's comment that Sentry stalemated Galactus. Both are completely baseless and unproven, after all....Or are we to pick and choose which statements we believe, and which ones we don't..?
There is from my perspective alot of sides to this and ultimately it, again from my perspective, comes down to how much we can "trust" the individual character and if based on showings is something that we can indeed see happening, for instance alot of people takes everything Reed Richards say as being facts because he has for long been established as being a "reliable" character capable of giving a accurate assesment on the current threats level or a persons power.
As for your example, I personally doubt anyone here can see Sentry stalemating Galactus also because Sentry imo doesn't have the required feats to validate it and it's a statement that was only made once with nothing to support it from Spiderman who have a tendency to leave things out or joke about things, or more in general his credibility is low.
A general thing that I think have been left out concerning the Kubik Celestial incident is that the unnamed Celestial judged Kubik and deemed him worthy to continue his existance, Kubik, a universel warper, was in that scan afraid and was aware that he was at the mercy of the Celestial, so while the Celestials haven't shown that they can accomplishe anything on the same scale as Kubik can, the Celestial showed in the incident that he apparently was powerful enough to kill Kubik without Kubik being capable of doing anything about it.
And after this incident Kubik yet again referes to the Celestials (and many others) as being above both Kosmos and him, so his statement isn't just thrown out once but twice and the second time more characters are added to show the extent of the abstracts power.
Originally posted by Utrigita
There is from my perspective alot of sides to this and ultimately it, again from my perspective, comes down to how much we can "trust" the individual character and if based on showings is something that we can indeed see happening, for instance alot of people takes everything Reed Richards say as being facts because he has for long been established as being a "reliable" character capable of giving a accurate assesment on the current threats level or a persons power.
As for your example, I personally doubt anyone here can see Sentry stalemating Galactus also because Sentry imo doesn't have the required feats to validate it and it's a statement that was only made once with nothing to support it from Spiderman who have a tendency to leave things out or joke about things, or more in general his credibility is low.
A general thing that I think have been left out concerning the Kubik Celestial incident is that the unnamed Celestial judged Kubik and deemed him worthy to continue his existance, Kubik, a universel warper, was in that scan afraid and was aware that he was at the mercy of the Celestial, so while the Celestials haven't shown that they can accomplishe anything on the same scale as Kubik can, the Celestial showed in the incident that he apparently was powerful enough to kill Kubik without Kubik being capable of doing anything about it.
And after this incident Kubik yet again referes to the Celestials (and many others) as being above both Kosmos and him, so his statement isn't just thrown out once but twice and the second time more characters are added to show the extent of the abstracts power.
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