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Darth Caedus and Obi-Wan Kenobi vs. Jaina Solo and Darth Vader (ROTS)
Whoa, this duel is terribly mismatched. Who do you think will win this engagment.
Same conditions:
1.) Saber
2.) Force
3.) All out
Location: Anakin Solo ship
I'd go with Caedus and Kenobi. Caedus could have ended his duel in a tie, and Kenobi is too smart to be defeated by the likes of Darth Vader.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'd have to think more about that. Vader has far superior TK feats and probably better bladework than Caedus. It would be close. Jaina is about equal to Obi-Wan imo.It would be a truly epic fight though.
Caedus was stated on the inside flap of LOTF: Invincible (or at least the hardback to be more powerful in the Force than Vader.
How if Jaina about equal to Obi Wan? Even if so, Obi Wan's mastery of Soresu would allow him to hold off Jaina long enough for Caedus to beat Vader.
Power isn't everything. Sidious is thought to be the strongest Sith yet I'd put Bane and Nihilus above him in terms of TK feats. Abeloth is looking to be veeeeery powerful yet apparantly has zippo to let her contend with the top teir. Actualised power extends to facets of the Force, like FLightning, TK, mind-****ery etc not just overall.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Power isn't everything. Sidious is thought to be the strongest Sith yet I'd put Bane and Nihilus above him in terms of TK feats. Abeloth is looking to be veeeeery powerful yet apparantly has zippo to let her contend with the top teir. Actualised power extends to facets of the Force, like FLightning, TK, mind-****ery etc not just overall.
Force power: Caedus officially > Vader
Force control/skill: Debatable
Force techniques: Caedus knew a huge amount of Force techniques from across the galaxy that Vader didn't.
Force power: Caedus officially > Vader
By how much? 1%? 0.0000000000001%? Yeah, just being termed as 'more powafulz' doesn't cut it for me. I prefer actual feats.
Force control/skill: Debatable
Feat-wise Vader is a power-house, and nothing Caedus has done has lead me to see him as being able to believe that he's that great in direct physical Force powers.
Force techniques: Caedus knew a huge amount of Force techniques from across the galaxy that Vader didn't.
And how many of them will help him in a fight?
Anakin4Ever
Whoa, this duel is terribly mismatched. Who do you think will win this engagment.Same conditions:
1.) Saber
2.) Force
3.) All outLocation: Anakin Solo ship
I'd go with Caedus and Kenobi. Caedus could have ended his duel in a tie, and Kenobi is too smart to be defeated by the likes of Darth Vader.
If he's already insane, Caedus and Kenobi take it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
By how much? 1%? 0.0000000000001%? Yeah, just being termed as 'more powafulz' doesn't cut it for me. I prefer actual feats.
It probably was by a significant enough amount so that it was worth mentioning. Either way, Caedus has the edge in this category.
Feat-wise Vader is a power-house, and nothing Caedus has done has lead me to see him as being able to believe that he's that great in direct physical Force powers.
Caedus was capable of creating illusions that sometimes even fooled Luke and was capable of severing Ben from the Force.
And how many of them will help him in a fight?
Shatterpoint
Force phasing objects
Force lightning (not really an obscure Force technique in SW, but Vader can't use it)
Flow walking (Jysella in FOTJ: Omen later uses it in a combat scenario)
Originally posted by Eminence
Pre-Mustafar Vader? Team two. Aside from swiftly and brutally crushing Dooku he actually manifests [7:20] an appropriately tremendous command of the Force. Yes, it's canon.If he's already insane, Caedus and Kenobi take it.
Caedus would still be superior to Vader and Obi Wan would still be > or = Jaina.