I think Jaina isn't being given enough credit here. She did beat Cadeus after all. Say what you want about him being distracted, but it doesn't change the fact that she one. The whole Sword of the Jedi thing is pretty gay, but she is dangerous. She was the one who defeated Warmaster Lah and she has shown extreme levels of control with the Force, being able to rub air molecules together when she and Jacen were Brakiss' prisoners. Although she specializes more as a fighter pilot and mechanic than Jacen, she's still able to hold her own in combat. I wouldn't be surprised if she could defeat Obi-wan.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I think Jaina isn't being given enough credit here. She did beat Cadeus after all. Say what you want about him being distracted, but it doesn't change the fact that she one. The whole Sword of the Jedi thing is pretty gay, but she is dangerous. She was the one who defeated Warmaster Lah and she has shown extreme levels of control with the Force, being able to rub air molecules together when she and Jacen were Brakiss' prisoners. Although she specializes more as a fighter pilot and mechanic than Jacen, she's still able to hold her own in combat. I wouldn't be surprised if she could defeat Obi-wan.
I thought that Corran Horn killed Lah? guess its been too long for me to remember correctly. I agree with you on Jaina, she is often under-rated. She is, in my opinion, of master status in the LOTF.
One thing though: Caedus was more than distracted in his first duel with Jaina. He didn't even know she was there until late in the fight. Luke made it a two on 1 fight. Luke wasn't physically there, but his solid force-projection (like alema kept using to attack leia with) could have killed Caedus. Though Caedus never grasped that Luke wasn't actually there, he still had to FIGHT with that projection while fighting Jaina, or it could have killed him too.
truejedi
I thought that Corran Horn killed Lah?
Spoiler:.
with her legs tied together
truejedi
One thing though: Caedus was more than distracted in his first duel with Jaina. He didn't even know she was there until late in the fight. Luke made it a two on 1 fight. Luke wasn't physically there, but his solid force-projection (like alema kept using to attack leia with) could have killed Caedus. Though Caedus never grasped that Luke wasn't actually there, he still had to FIGHT with that projection while fighting Jaina, or it could have killed him too.
Jaina definitely won it. She used a lot of unorthodox ability to make up for her lack of raw power against Jacen, but it worked then and I see no reason that it wouldn't continue to work against other opponents. TJ, I agree, she should be a master by this point. She'd beat more than half of them in a 1v1 fight.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Jaina definitely won it. She used a lot of unorthodox ability to make up for her lack of raw power against Jacen, but it worked then and I see no reason that it wouldn't continue to work against other opponents. TJ, I agree, she should be a master by this point. She'd beat more than half of them in a 1v1 fight.
You mean in their first fight or their second?
In the first Jaina vs Caedus fight Luke was amping Jaina.
In the second Jaina vs Caedus fight Caedus was distracted and, at the end, didn't defend himself from Jaina's final blow.
It's clearly stated that Jaina went for broke and decided to use a strike that was guaranteed to kill Jacen but in the process left her completely open to counter-attack if Jacen had wanted. She thought they would both be killed, but he chose not to kill her, aka, the redemption just before his death.
Jaina is good but not that good. Sure she beat Caedus but that was because he was one-armed, distracted, and she got a cheap strike by stabbing him in the gut before it even began. Yet still her only chance was a sucidal move at the end. In fact at the begining Caedus is cleary superior. As for the first fight Luke is clealy amping her. The books says, "Despite the ringing in her ears and the gauze in her head-despite her hugely aching skull and the big knot of hurt swelling on her brow-Jaina had never been so filled with the Force. She could feel it in every cell of her body, swirling through her like fire, burning more ferociously every moment. She had never felt so strong or so quick or so alert. She could drive her fist through a durasteel wall, or catch a blaster bolt between her fingers. Despite the red curtain of blood cascading from the gash where Vatok's helmet had split her forehead, she was aware of everything."
and later on when the Luke leaves her "Then Jaina experienced an abrupt draining as her Force energies returned to their normal level. Suddenly she felt cold, tired, and in pain, and she barely had the strength to hold her lightsaber as it flicked back and forth, batting away blaster bolts."
Hmmm, could that be the trance thing Kenobi does though? When he goes all zen in the ROTS novel?
'This is Obi-Wan Kenobi in the light:
As he is prodded onto the bridge along with Anakin and Chancellor Palpatine, he has no need to look around to see the banks of control consoles tended by terrified Neimoidians. He doesn't have to turn his head to count the droidekas and super battle droids, or to gauge the positions of the brutal droid bodyguards. He doesn't bother to raise his eyes to meet the cold yellow stare fixed on him through a skull-mask of armorplast. He doesn't even need to reach into the Force. He has already let the Force reach into him. The Force flows over him and around him as though he has stepped into a crystal-pure waterfall lost in the green coils of a forgotten rain forest; when he opens himself to that sparkling stream it flows into him and through him and out again without the slightest interference from his conscious will. The part of him that calls itself Obi-Wan Kenobi is no more than a ripple, an eddy in the pool into which he endlessly pours.'
Probably not, but an interesting thought nontheless, and there doesn't seem to be any proof that Luke was aiding her and idk why they'd make it so vague if he was.
Originally posted by Eminence
Jaina killed himSpoiler:.
with her legs tied together
Okay. Who was it horn killed then? that made him leave the order for a bit? Shadoi or something?
No, Luke "projected" his image onto Jaina; he wasn't actually in the fight.