Swordmanship Rankings

Started by marwash2216 pages

i dunno what that picture you attached is supposed to be proving, but since neither have swords... irrelevant. Also, why is that everyone has an opinion but I'm the only one to do the ranking.

Do what the OP says, and rank them. I highly doubt anyone will logically come up with a list that drastically differs from mine.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
how do you dispute this? is this also hyperbole?

What holds more merit? Beating a nobody vampire who claims he is awesome, or getting punked by a nobody vampire who claims he is awesome? I'm leaning towards the second option.

I understand you guys like Blade, but he isn't a top tier contender, he doesn't hold a candle to the top streets. That is just the reality of the situation. Blade is Shatterstar. Blade is Razalong Knife. He isn't Captain America or Wolverine. He isn't Batman or Daredevil. He is C-List.

Originally posted by marwash22
i dunno what that picture you attached is supposed to be proving, but since neither have swords... irrelevant. Also, why is that everyone has an opinion but I'm the only one to do the ranking.

Do what the OP says, and rank them. I highly doubt anyone will logically come up with a list that drastically differs from mine.

Swank stated that was a movie tagline. Not entirely true.

He seems to think all vampires can fly and turn into mist and sh!t.

A sword was a part of Elektra's standard equipment for the majority of her career. =/

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

What holds more merit? Beating a nobody vampire who claims he is awesome, or getting punked by a nobody vampire who claims he is awesome? I'm leaning towards the second option.

I understand you guys like Blade, but he isn't a top tier contender, he doesn't hold a candle to the top streets. That is just the reality of the situation. Blade is Shatterstar. Blade is Razalong Knife. He isn't Captain America or Wolverine. He isn't Batman or Daredevil. He is C-List.

The thing is....we don't know how good that guy is. He could have been a god with a sword. Don't really prove much because there isn't anything to contradict that vamp for being a chump like you say he is.

Blade beat Varnae in a sword fight...while he was a human....and while he was being gassed. And I heard Varnae beat Conan....

context please... pure blood > blade. nobody's questioning that.

Originally posted by Konton
A sword was a part of Elektra's standard equipment for the majority of her career. =/
what does she have to do with this?

Just saying. She's done more with a sword than Cap ever did and he made the list.

People are actually arguing Batman is faster than Blade?

Originally posted by marwash22
context please... pure blood > blade. nobody's questioning that.
Most of the vampire nation fears Blade on the level that they fear Dracula.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
People are actually arguing Batman is faster than Blade?
Swank will. According to him Blade isn't even peak human in speed.

OK seriously Who Has Ra's Al Ghul beaten other than batman no joke im asking

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Most of the vampire nation fears Blade on the level that they fear Dracula.
I don't disagree with that. But what does that have to do with the scan? The guy who disarmed Blade in that scan was pure blood who's been sword fighting for centuries...

Originally posted by marwash22
how do you dispute this? is this also hyperbole?
Most of Blade's feats are hyperbole. You should know this by now.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The thing is....we don't know how good that guy is. He could have been a god with a sword. Don't really prove much because there isn't anything to contradict that vamp for being a chump like you say he is.

Blade beat Varnae in a sword fight...while he was a human....and while he was being gassed. And I heard Varnae beat Conan....

And he could have been a nobody chump. The chances that this previously unheard of character is better than the established Marvel swordsmen is slim. He was a vampire who showed up for two issues punked Blade effortlessly in sword skill and then died. Blade's skill with a sword was flat out stated to be weak. What counter is their to that? He beat some other random vampire fodder who thought he was awesome with a knife? Well, even if we give that guy the benefit of the doubt, that still isn't an indication of Blade's skill with a sword.

Varnae was a giant monster when Conan fought him, he didn't use a sword. He didn't even have a human form until shortly before he appeared in the Blade series. I think he got it in a Ghost Rider / Jonny Blaze issue IIRC. He isn't exactly king of the sword.

Originally posted by Trackz
i put the scans up..you missed them, he beat all the fencers in europe, and he had vampiric abilities, Blade beat him with only a knife before he had vampiric abilities, that speaks for Blade's skill, how about feats that batman, wolverine, or ras have

That indeed shows skill. See? It isn't that hard to isolate their proficiency from their superpowers. It's easier when they defeat or stalemate people far more powerfull than them using it.

Originally posted by dev10n
OK seriously Who Has Ra's Al Ghul beaten other than batman no joke im asking
This is such stupid logic. Who has the Flash beaten in a footrace?... hardly anyone.! Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean he isn't the fastest person. Same thing applies to Ras and his swordfighting, a certain degree of inference has to be included when you read the comics and see how highly touted he is as a swordsman.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladedracula.jpg

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And he could have been a nobody chump. The chances that this previously unheard of character is better than the established Marvel swordsmen is slim. He was a vampire who showed up for two issues punked Blade effortlessly in sword skill and then died. Blade's skill with a sword was flat out stated to be weak. What counter is their to that? He beat some other random vampire fodder who thought he was awesome with a knife? Well, even if we give that guy the benefit of the doubt, that still isn't an indication of Blade's skill with a sword.

Varnae was a giant monster when Conan fought him, he didn't use a sword. He didn't even have a human form until shortly before he appeared in the Blade series. I think he got it in a Ghost Rider / Jonny Blaze issue IIRC. He isn't exactly king of the sword.

For me...that dude was obviously good with a sword. Unless you really think a 100 plus year old vampire hunter is that bad with a sword.