Originally posted by Black bolt zMoondragon failed to mindrape him and we don't have a single showign to suggest that tactic would work against Thanos here.
Mindrape,steal soul,stop time.Thanos only gets one gem so only one gem that gem would protect him.
He doesn't stop time while in combat. Nrever has and more than likely never will.
Prove he can steal Thanos' soul. If something works on Loki that doesn't mean it will work on Thanos especially with a gem.
Moondragons best mental feat is not on thanos and he can still surpass it.Her best mental feat is controlling an entire planet.Odin has done that too.RKT>Odin.Thus RKT surpasses moondragons best feat and should be able to mindrape thanos.
If he can stop time out of combat whats to stop him from stopping time in combat.Nothing.You are wrong I am right.
So thanos has a stronger soul than loki?That makes sense how?If he can do it to one person below him he should be able to do it to another person below him.
But thanos only gets one gem.So the gem will only protect against one of these tactics.He doesn't get 3.
Originally posted by Black bolt zWhen has odin mindraped an adequate telepath? Hmmmm?
Moondragons best mental feat is not on thanos and he can still surpass it.Her best mental feat is controlling an entire planet.Odin has done that too.RKT>Odin.Thus RKT surpasses moondragons best feat and should be able to mindrape thanos.If he can stop time out of combat whats to stop him from stopping time in combat.Nothing.You are wrong I am right.
So thanos has a stronger soul than loki?That makes sense how?If he can do it to one person below him he should be able to do it to another person below him.
But thanos only gets one gem.So the gem will only protect against one of these tactics.He doesn't get 3.
You can't just state things without any evidence to back it up which you do all the time.
No, we argue based on what's in character not powerset arguing otherwise it's not the characters it's just their powers. If you can't show him doing what you say he will here even once then it's not a viable tactic.
Thanos is Thanos don't you dare even compare him to Loki who can't really even get the better of his brother while Thanos can beat Thor easily with the power gem.
He can also use the gem in any manner to best Thor he isn't going to sit there and play defense. Thanos wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112He controled all fo earths popluation and (for lack of word)mindraped thor.Controling a planets popluation is equal to moondragons best feat and she is an adequate telepath.
When has odin mindraped an adequate telepath? Hmmmm?You can't just state things without any evidence to back it up which you do all the time.
No, we argue based on what's in character not powerset arguing otherwise it's not the characters it's just their powers. If you can't show him doing what you say he will here even once then it's not a viable tactic.
Thanos is Thanos don't you dare even compare him to Loki who can't really even get the better of his brother while Thanos can beat Thor easily with the power gem.
He can also use the gem in any manner to best Thor he isn't going to sit there and play defense. Thanos wins.
Everything I have stated I have backed up.The same cannot be said for you.
Yes you go by what they use in character.But just because he has never done it in combat doesn't mean he can't.If he can give me one reason he wouldn't
That doesn't make thanos's soul stronger then lokis.Or any harder to steal.Yes Thanos>Loki.But you have no proof that he can't steal thanos's soul.
Depends which gem.I have even said that any of the gems used effectivly(except mind) could beat RKT.But it all depends on hwo he uses it and how fast he uses it.If RKT can steal his soul before Thanos(time)make it so he never existed or(space) BFR's him then RKT wins.All depends on the circumstances.But IMO thanos could take a majority.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThat isn't the same as defeating someone like Thanos in mind combat. Odin dominated nameless earth folk and his own son which he has always been superior to in every way pretty much so the feats aren't impressive at all.
He controled all fo earths popluation and (for lack of word)mindraped thor.Controling a planets popluation is equal to moondragons best feat and she is an adequate telepath.Everything I have stated I have backed up.The same cannot be said for you.
Yes you go by what they use in character.But just because he has never done it in combat doesn't mean he can't.If he can give me one reason he wouldn't
That doesn't make thanos's soul stronger then lokis.Or any harder to steal.Yes Thanos>Loki.But you have no proof that he can't steal thanos's soul.
Depends which gem.I have even said that any of the gems used effectivly(except mind) could beat RKT.But it all depends on hwo he uses it and how fast he uses it.If RKT can steal his soul before Thanos(time)make it so he never existed or(space) BFR's him then RKT wins.All depends on the circumstances.But IMO thanos could take a majority.
Odin has never defeated an adept telepeth in mind combat so comparing feats to one another also fails while trying to establish an abc logic against Thanos. Thanos doesn't have Moondragon's feats but he was superior to her and by your own logic he would be superior to Odin as well since his best feat is on par with hers. Feel the burn.
This is what these characters do in combat not an example of surfer creating blackholes in someone's ass. This has to be done at least once to be argued. Sorry.
You have no proof he can steal Thanos' soul. Not anything whatsoever so until you back up your claim it's just a claim.
If you knew anything about the soul steal you'd realize it takes time and isn't an immediate thing but I bet you didn't even read about it.
Thanos wins all ten.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all, Thor was not in Warrior Madness during Blood and Thunder. Second of all, Eternity did not mention anything about the future in regards to Thor etc. He stated that he was a danger then and there. Why do you need to complicate such a simple ****ing scene? No one is taking it literally. Seriously.? He was tapping into the Power Gem by a greater degree when he was in the force block, but before that, the first time we notice him harnessing the Power Gem in anyway is against Adam Warlock and Magus. Before that, he didn't really do anything he wouldn't have been capable off before. Heck, going toe to toe with Thanos is something Masterson has done before but Thor was doing too well against Thanos in Blood and Thunder. Makes sense he was tapping into the Gem to at least some extent against Thanos. No one is denying that.
Lol. Anyways, Thor landed more blows. He struck Thanos 5 times and Thanos struck Thor 3 times.
Thanos knocks Thor down once when he hits him with an energy blast while he was fighting his robots, and a second time when he pounds Thor into the ground by striking him over the head. Thor put Thanos on his ass once when he out fights him. Using your logic, Thor was winning that fight in a straight up head to head battle. Thanos may have knocked Thor down twice in comparison to Thor knocking him down once, but that first time was when he was fighting the robot guards so it might as well not count. So we're left with a tie in the knocking down department and Thor having the edge in the number of blows thrown. Hence Thor was winning. dur
I think Thor had the edge in the straight up battle.
Rage Rage Rage.... I honestly think you need to look at the fight again and actually count the blows again. My count has Thanos up by 2 blows NOT the other way around. Furthermore, knockdowns as we know from various sports counts more than landing a single blow. Who wins a boxing or MMA fight when one fighter lands 20 punches and the other 15. But the person who only landed 15 knock the other guy down once compared to going down 2 times? That is even assuming you theory that Thor landed more blows which he didn't. Thanos got the better of that fight via points no matter how you figure it.
Second, I know he wasn't in TRUE WM mode but meant that as not holding back and mentally not in a normal state which are all true. Even in that state with the PG, Thanos was still getting the better of the fight.
Lastly, do you hear what you're saying.... Oooo don't read too much into the scene the scene isn't to be taken LITERALLY. Well then, that means it's to be taken as bs or we can use a nice neat solution to the problem. We know Thor without the PG is no threat to Eternity what so ever. Thus we have a perfectly logical explanation for something by your own admission doesn't make any sense and isn't to be taken literally.
Originally posted by quanchi112So controlling everyone on earth isn't an impessive feat?I beg to differ.
That isn't the same as defeating someone like Thanos in mind combat. Odin dominated nameless earth folk and his own son which he has always been superior to in every way pretty much so the feats aren't impressive at all.Odin has never defeated an adept telepeth in mind combat so comparing feats to one another also fails while trying to establish an abc logic against Thanos. Thanos doesn't have Moondragon's feats but he was superior to her and by your own logic he would be superior to Odin as well since his best feat is on par with hers. Feel the burn.
This is what these characters do in combat not an example of surfer creating blackholes in someone's ass. This has to be done at least once to be argued. Sorry.
You have no proof he can steal Thanos' soul. Not anything whatsoever so until you back up your claim it's just a claim.
If you knew anything about the soul steal you'd realize it takes time and isn't an immediate thing but I bet you didn't even read about it.
Thanos wins all ten.
What are you talking about?What is thanos's best mind feat?Not better then controlling an entire planet.And RKT>Odin so RKT would easily be able to mindrape thanos.Also why didn't thanos mindrape thor?Because he wasn't able to.Odin was.Why?Because Odin>Thanos.
Surfer said he can create black holes.Why do you not believe someone in the comic but you believe when someone says void can only be killed when he wants.Double standard much?
Thanos can win but not every time.IMO if used correctly only the mind gem would fail.And it also matters who gets the first attack.If RKT can time stop him or mindrape him before he can do that to RKT then RKT wins.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So controlling everyone on earth isn't an impessive feat?I beg to differ.What are you talking about?What is thanos's best mind feat?Not better then controlling an entire planet.And RKT>Odin so RKT would easily be able to mindrape thanos.Also why didn't thanos mindrape thor?Because he wasn't able to.Odin was.Why?Because Odin>Thanos.
Surfer said he can create black holes.Why do you not believe someone in the comic but you believe when someone says void can only be killed when he wants.Double standard much?
Thanos can win but not every time.IMO if used correctly only the mind gem would fail.And it also matters who gets the first attack.If RKT can time stop him or mindrape him before he can do that to RKT then RKT wins.
Black Bolt... it honestly seems like you have no clue about Moondragon at all. She is far far far greater than Odin is in the TP department and that is without question. Yet she was no match for Thanos in this area. In fact her and xavier combined couldn't penetrate Thanos mind. RKT really has no shot at all in this area.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThanos beat Moondragon in a mind war, the same Moondragon of that era who eslaved a whole planet.
So controlling everyone on earth isn't an impessive feat?I beg to differ.What are you talking about?What is thanos's best mind feat?Not better then controlling an entire planet.And RKT>Odin so RKT would easily be able to mindrape thanos.Also why didn't thanos mindrape thor?Because he wasn't able to.Odin was.Why?Because Odin>Thanos.
Surfer said he can create black holes.Why do you not believe someone in the comic but you believe when someone says void can only be killed when he wants.Double standard much?
Thanos can win but not every time.IMO if used correctly only the mind gem would fail.And it also matters who gets the first attack.If RKT can time stop him or mindrape him before he can do that to RKT then RKT wins.
It took 3 telepaths just keep Thanos under mind control, all while he wasnt a full power and they even stated they couldnt hold he much longer.
Originally posted by Black bolt zIt isn't. They were nameless fodder and random people.
So controlling everyone on earth isn't an impessive feat?I beg to differ.What are you talking about?What is thanos's best mind feat?Not better then controlling an entire planet.And RKT>Odin so RKT would easily be able to mindrape thanos.Also why didn't thanos mindrape thor?Because he wasn't able to.Odin was.Why?Because Odin>Thanos.
Surfer said he can create black holes.Why do you not believe someone in the comic but you believe when someone says void can only be killed when he wants.Double standard much?
Thanos can win but not every time.IMO if used correctly only the mind gem would fail.And it also matters who gets the first attack.If RKT can time stop him or mindrape him before he can do that to RKT then RKT wins.
Thanos beat someone who can do so and someone with actual telepathic feats.
Prove he can beat Thanos prove anyone can mindrape Thanos on Thor's level. K. Thanks.
The writer actually said it as well and it backed up how he was defeated in the actual comic whereas the Surfer can create black holes but doesn't fight in the manner described in the threads.
Thanos wins with whatever gem he has. Thor has no chance.
Originally posted by quanchi112But a whole planet?Thats a good feat.
It isn't. They were nameless fodder and random people.Thanos beat someone who can do so and someone with actual telepathic feats.
Prove he can beat Thanos prove anyone can mindrape Thanos on Thor's level. K. Thanks.
The writer actually said it as well and it backed up how he was defeated in the actual comic whereas the Surfer can create black holes but doesn't fight in the manner described in the threads.
Thanos wins with whatever gem he has. Thor has no chance.
And who was that?Good telepathic feats.And IMO controlling a planet>mindraping a telepath
On rune king thors yes he should be able to
Because it's not in character for him to do those methods with CIS if he wanted to he could.
RKT does have a chance.But Thanos would probably win the majority.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Black Bolt... it honestly seems like you have no clue about Moondragon at all. She is far far far greater than Odin is in the TP department and that is without question. Yet she was no match for Thanos in this area. In fact her and xavier combined couldn't penetrate Thanos mind. RKT really has no shot at all in this area.
again BB
Originally posted by Black bolt zThanos doesn't need feats when he can beat Moondragon in a mind war.
But a whole planet?Thats a good feat.And who was that?Good telepathic feats.And IMO controlling a planet>mindraping a telepath
On rune king thors yes he should be able to
Because it's not in character for him to do those methods with CIS if he wanted to he could.
RKT does have a chance.But Thanos would probably win the majority.
You have no proof just unsupported speculation.
But he hasn't and won't so you have nothing unless you want to do a powerset only debate.
Not a chance. The gems are far too much for this Thor.