Thor & BRB vs. Silver Surfer & WWH vs. Gladiator & Black Bolt vs. Sentry & Nova Prim

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was partial Void and was still the Sentry.

The power levels are the same it's his mindset which limits him. Sentry at his best though to me is still with the Void calling the shots. it wasn't 100 percent Void which appeared at the end of siege so it still counts for the Sentry as well.

1)It was still Sentry with a strng hint o fthe void and he got knocked away while Thor got crushed before inferior opponents and he was talked down to by norman on his home turf on tv.

2)He crushed asgard while he easily restrained Thor which proves he can have his way with Thor and still dominate asgard at the same time.

3)Sentry and Void are both above Thor in power.

Statements made during siege, secret invasion bios, etc. all put the Sentry/Void on a much higher level than Thor.

You mean Voided out Sentry? When his eyes turn black etc.? No percentage was given as far as I know. Speculation on your part. And like I said, even when he tapped into the Void to defeat Molecule Man, when he became just the Sentry, he didn't remember anything as far as I recall. The Sentry persona was a bit useless and naive under Bendis at times. It was when he was tapping into the Void that he was formidable. How can you deny that there is a power gap between regular hero Sentry and the Void? Christ, we've actually seen him burnout against Green Scar, and get knocked away by Thor.

What the **** are you talking about? At the end of Siege the Void persona had completely taken over. Bob Reynolds regained control after Thor and the Helicarrier knocked him for a loop.

1) It was the Sentry's form with the Void heavily influencing him as he had become the dominant persona but that's all. There was still a power gap until the Void literally started to show as evident by the fact that Thor casually knocked him away.

2) So you didn't actually read Siege #3. Good to know.

3) Not the Sentry. Hell, Thor was going toe to toe with the Sentry while tapping into the Void. Clearly the gap is not as large as you want it to be.

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Ohoho. So we're going by statements now.

Nate Grey stated that a rogue Thor took on both him and the Sentry.

Nick Fury stated that Thor would handle the Sentry.

Marvel released a guide/bio to Siege where Victoria Hand analyzed all the key players, and according to her, it would take more than the Sentry to bring Thor down. It would take the combined efforts of all their most powerful resources to take Thor down. We all know how big you are on bios etc.

Every comment I've read made in regards to Thor vs. the Sentry leading up to Siege leads me to believe that Thor can take the Sentry and is more than likely above him which is directly shown in #1.

How the hell can you deny that there is a gap between hero mode Sentry and the Void? Are you really that thick headed Quan?

I also remember Sentry getting owned hard by female Ultron until he Voided out. The phucker actually started to rip apart Adamantium!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean Voided out Sentry? When his eyes turn black etc.? No percentage was given as far as I know. Speculation on your part. And like I said, even when he tapped into the Void to defeat Molecule Man, when he became just the Sentry, he didn't remember anything as far as I recall. The Sentry persona was a bit useless and naive under Bendis at times. It was when he was tapping into the Void that he was formidable. How can you deny that there is a power gap between regular hero Sentry and the Void? Christ, we've actually seen him burnout against Green Scar, and get knocked away by Thor.

What the **** are you talking about? At the end of Siege the Void persona had completely taken over. Bob Reynolds regained control after Thor and the Helicarrier knocked him for a loop.

1) It was the Sentry's form with the Void heavily influencing him as he had become the dominant persona but that's all. There was still a power gap until the Void literally started to show as evident by the fact that Thor casually knocked him away.

2) So you didn't actually read Siege #3. Good to know.

3) Not the Sentry. Hell, Thor was going toe to toe with the Sentry while tapping into the Void. Clearly the gap is not as large as you want it to be.

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Ohoho. So we're going by statements now.

Nate Grey stated that a rogue Thor took on both him and the Sentry.

Nick Fury stated that Thor would handle the Sentry.

Marvel released a guide/bio to Siege where Victoria Hand analyzed all the key players, and according to her, it would take more than the Sentry to bring Thor down. It would take the combined efforts of all their most powerful resources to take Thor down. We all know how big you are on bios etc.

Every comment I've read made in regards to Thor vs. the Sentry leading up to Siege leads me to believe that Thor can take the Sentry and is more than likely above him which is directly shown in #1.

How the hell can you deny that there is a gap between hero mode Sentry and the Void? Are you really that thick headed Quan?

Only when he completely turned into the Void was he Voided out all the way. Prior to that there was still a hint of the Sentry in there.

1)No, there wasn't. His most impressive feat was against the MM anyways and that's prior to being Voided out all the way.

2)Here's him bringing down asgard while Thor looks helpless, scared, and shocked at the power at the Sentry's command. Sentry>>>Thor. Look at the poor guy and look at the fear in his eyes while the Sentry crushes his home.

3.)Sentry wasn't even taxed or pressed by Thor he overcame him and crushed asgard to boot. That's just domination.

That's off panel and Sentry's power level has proven to be far above Thor on panel and confirmed by statements.

We saw Nick Fury was wrong. Laughs.

We saw the ufoes take him down along with Osborne. Hahahahaha. Thor went down in the actual comic by far less.

Tom b. disagrees as does common sense but hey it's rage it's that kid who pretends Thor is skyfather level.

Originally posted by dmills
I also remember Sentry getting owned hard by female Ultron until he Voided out. The phucker actually started to rip apart Adamantium!

She wasn't made out of actual solid Adamantium as I recall. She had a hard malleable body. Similar to the robot from Terminator 2.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because it's the same character and he's limited by his mindset and guilt. Sentry felt guilt for tearing up the city and letting go against the WW Hulk so he allowed himself to be ko'd. Brevoort also confirmed they have the same power it's just Void is more ruthless and dangerous. If Sentry didn't have the guilt and what not he'd be just as dangerous.

Whatever reason you want to use, there is a legit difference between Sentry and the Void. There's no denying this.

Yea, I doubt that was what Pak was thinking when he wrote that scene. He didn't allow himself to get knocked out. When he tells Bruce thank you, he says it because the Green Scar finally allowed him to go all out and unleash his power. Something that's his never been able to do before in modern continuity etc. I thought it was fairly obvious after re-reading the event.

Haha, why the hell do I care what Brevoort says or thinks? He isn't all knowing. Shit, he thinks Thor can't perform Surgery and Thor/Ares have never had a fight before.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Only when he completely turned into the Void was he Voided out all the way. Prior to that there was still a hint of the Sentry in there.

If there was a hint of Reynolds in there, it wasn't seen much outside of the physical form of the Sentry. He'd become nothing more than a weapon that Osborn pointed at at what he wanted to destroy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)No, there wasn't. His most impressive feat was against the MM anyways and that's prior to being Voided out all the way.

What do you mean no there wasn't? There was a legit power gap between the Sentry that attacked Thor in Siege #1 and the Sentry who attacked Thor in Siege #3.

Like I said before, that was the Sentry being influenced by the Void persona. When Reynolds took over, he didn't even know what was happening.

Originally posted by quanchi112
2)Here's him bringing down asgard while Thor looks helpless, scared, and shocked at the power at the Sentry's command. Sentry>>>Thor. Look at the poor guy and look at the fear in his eyes while the Sentry crushes his home.

You claimed this:

Originally posted by quanchi112
He crushed asgard while he easily restrained Thor which proves he can have his way with Thor and still dominate asgard at the same time.

That's not what happened there. And your skewered perception of the said moment is amusing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
3.)Sentry wasn't even taxed or pressed by Thor he overcame him and crushed asgard to boot. That's just domination.

Read their entire fight. It was not a domination for the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's off panel and Sentry's power level has proven to be far above Thor on panel and confirmed by statements.

We saw Nick Fury was wrong. Laughs.

We saw the ufoes take him down along with Osborne. Hahahahaha. Thor went down in the actual comic by far less.

Tom b. disagrees as does common sense but hey it's rage it's that kid who pretends Thor is skyfather level.

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Your self serving logic is the reason why it's pointless to argue with you but at the same time why I argue with you in the first place and don't just put you on ignore. It's amusing.

Really? I'd say we saw Nick Fury was right.

Lmao. Your not very good at riling people up Quan.

What the **** do I care what Tom Breevort thinks? And going by his statements and your claims, Green Scar could take on Void since they're the same character and have the same amount of power available.

@Quan,
I gotta call PIS on that and I'm not even a huge Thor fan. We've seen Thor take on much more powerful foes then Bob and yet we're supposed to believe he shytes himself over the Void? No.

Can someone post scans of Thor trying to fight the Celestials? I want to see if he was looking helpless and scared shyteless.

Originally posted by dmills
@Quan,
I gotta call PIS on that and I'm not even a huge Thor fan. We've seen Thor take on much more powerful foes then Bob and yet we're supposed to believe he shytes himself over the Void? No.

It was shock and surprise. At least in my opinion. He took on the Void completely unleashed without flincing or slowing down.

I could probably ask Bendis to make sure.

Originally posted by dmills
Can someone post scans of Thor trying to fight the Celestials? I want to see if he was looking helpless and scared shyteless.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsCelestials4.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Whatever reason you want to use, there is a legit difference between Sentry and the Void. There's no denying this.

Yea, I doubt that was what Pak was thinking when he wrote that scene. He didn't allow himself to get knocked out. When he tells Bruce thank you, he says it because the Green Scar finally allowed him to go all out and unleash his power. Something that's his never been able to do before in modern continuity etc. I thought it was fairly obvious after re-reading the event.

Haha, why the hell do I care what Brevoort says or thinks? He isn't all knowing. Shit, he thinks Thor can't perform Surgery and Thor/Ares have never had a fight before.

If there was a hint of Reynolds in there, it wasn't seen much outside of the physical form of the Sentry. He'd become nothing more than a weapon that Osborn pointed at at what he wanted to destroy.

What do you mean no there wasn't? There was a legit power gap between the Sentry that attacked Thor in Siege #1 and the Sentry who attacked Thor in Siege #3.

Like I said before, that was the Sentry being influenced by the Void persona. When Reynolds took over, he didn't even know what was happening.

You claimed this:

That's not what happened there. And your skewered perception of the said moment is amusing.

Read their entire fight. It was not a domination for the Sentry.

😂

Your self serving logic is the reason why it's pointless to argue with you but at the same time why I argue with you in the first place and don't just put you on ignore. It's amusing.

Really? I'd say we saw Nick Fury was right.

Lmao. Your not very good at riling people up Quan.

What the **** do I care what Tom Breevort thinks? And going by his statements and your claims, Green Scar could take on Void since they're the same character and have the same amount of power available.

Of course you don't care what he thinks or anyone else save yourself because you live in your own world. Tom B agrees with me.

He was still the Sentry with the Void being dominant until he went all Void after he wrecked asgard.

No, there wasn't. Sentry flew into him and was knocked off. Sentry then tore ares in half and it was the same sentry. I mean even you can't believe he changed this much it's obvious he went all Void but even before that he was still sonning people in half and was still dangerous. If Thor managed to stay on his feet longer than 30 seconds he'd have felt the wrath of the Sentry sooner.

Yes, he was being influenced but he also was at the beginning of siege and at the end of the dark avengers so it was still the sentry and he is still as powerful as he was at the end though he was being more ruthless and became completely unhinged.

That is what happened as the scan clearly shows. Sentry had the Void come out in had nothing to do with Thor or his attacks when he lost it the tentacles came out. Thor looked scared and was helpless and he looked quite pathetic before the might of the Sentry. I've never seen him so scared before that I can recall.

Thor failed at doing anything significant in terms of damage to the Sentry and then got loads of uber help after he destroyed asgard. Sentry's far above Thor and even asgard itself. I can't recall a character who has put a stamp on asgard like he did. he killed his brother and wrecked the entire place.

Nick Fury wasn't right because we saw an entire avengers team take him on and fail miserably on top of Loki. Void lost when he wanted to be put down. Nothing more.

No, Green Scar couldn't because the Void wouldn't want to be put down by his actions against the WW Hulk or was he as ruthless.

Originally posted by dmills
@Quan,
I gotta call PIS on that and I'm not even a huge Thor fan. We've seen Thor take on much more powerful foes then Bob and yet we're supposed to believe he shytes himself over the Void? No.

@Rage,

Yep. Looks scared to me 😖arcasm:

@Quan,

On a forum such as this, showings consistent with the characters overall history matter. Thor has been in worse situations with more money on the line.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to prove Surfer never went all out against Thanos already for anyone to even take your points seriously.

Thanos is far too powerful for it to matter and when he connects Surfer goes down.

Surfer would put up a fight but thanos would still win 7-8/10.

I'll reply to you tomorrow Quan. Too lazy to deal with you right now.

Originally posted by dmills
@Rage,

Yep. Looks scared to me 😖arcasm:

I believe it was shock and surprise. It would make the most sense. Even Bendis isn't that stupid.

I'll ask him after I finish my exams on Thursday.

Originally posted by dmills
@Quan,

On a forum such as this, showings consistent with the characters overall history matter. Thor has been in worse situations with more money on the line.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I have read their battles.Surfer was never CIS off/bloodlusted against thanos.

Surfer would put up a fight but thanos would still win 7-8/10.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'll reply to you tomorrow Quan. Too lazy to deal with you right now.

I believe it was shock and surprise. It would make the most sense. Even Bendis isn't that stupid.

I'll ask him after I finish my exams on Thursday.

hammers win

Originally posted by quanchi112

Thanos wouldn't lose a single fight. Sorry, this is just another case of you just making stuff up like the fabled Odin mindrape in battle.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No it's just another case of you using fanboyism and fallacy.I also never suggested odin has mindraped someone in battle.I said he can.Read a comic for god sakes.Surfer would take probably 3/10.

Thanos can't lose to the Surfer go read a comic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have which is why you shouldn't bring up things which have never happened as of yet.

Thanos can't lose to the Surfer go read a comic.

Thanos would win 6-7/10 against a non CIS/PIS and bloodlusted surfer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So he has mindraped out of combat but not in combat?How does that make any sense?It doesn't unless you are using quanchilogic.

Thanos would win 6-7/10 against a non CIS/PIS and bloodlusted surfer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The comics and me say otherwise but you don't care what happens in the comics and just make things up.

If he can mindrape out of comic he can mindrape in comic.It's not rocket surgery.