Mortal Kombat 9

Started by Omega Vision76 pages

Shao Khan was just lame.

He always was.

Though I've always liked how he insults the player.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I would think that it amplifies any powers. Don't see why it would only amp a cryomancer.
Yeah, that's true.

Perhaps, though according to Fujin's armageddon bio, Raiden's corruption was due to something different. Something unknown, so I'll just leave it at that. And exactly. 😎

Oi, you should see it soon then before it gets much later.

Yeah, I believe that's right. That last part is definitely true too... Still to this day I wonder why they went from that badass doctor Baraka to that lamely painted orc. If the change was due to bad reception from fans, then **** you fanbase for not being able to accept something new. Regardless, I didn't have a problem with the special effects, but yeah. If they had relied on that less, they wouldn't of had to resort to some out-of-place animation for the Kitana & Mileena episodes. Here's to hoping that doesn't happen again in future episodes.

Eh, Raiden's not able to participate (unless directed challenged) because of his godly status. Daegon's only half god, so it's debatable as to whether or not he was able to participate in an MK tournament. As for your other questions, beats the hell out of me. srug

I'll try to think of one when I can. In fact I have been trying since I saw your last post, but it's hard to top that "I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am" line. It just speaks for itself. awesome

Exactly, and although it's neat how they had Hasashi as a general, I'm just not sure I like the mask design to be honest, compared to Chris Casamassa's Scorpion (from MK Conquest and the first movie) and such.. Still, the rest of the new outfit's undoubtedly cool, and I'm sure we all have the same excitement for the next episode now. ~

As for that behind-the-scenes fatality stuff, nice. Didn't realize it was that hard for them to pull off the classic Reptile one at first, but I guess it makes sense. Great to hear too about all the pre-order bonuses becoming DLC. Had a good feeling that would happen eventually...

Good enough for me.
Also, speaking of Shang Tsung, I wonder how he'll come back to life if he has been sacrificed to Sindel, and Shao Kahn is no longer alive.

Meh, I could just wait for the Blu-ray or DVD and watch it. Besides, there are other movies out that I want to watch. Namely Green Lantern, The Hangover Part 2, & Kung Fu Panda 2 😛

Hmm, I guess it might have been due to a bad rep, but still, it's not like he had a bad design. And the new design looks nothing like Baraka. Heck, it doesn't even have the Tartakan mouth, while Mileena does facepalm
Yep.
Also, I wish the fights in MK:Legacy would have the ferocity that the Johnny-Baraka fight had in MK:Rebirth. I actually got the feeling that these were two people who wanted to kick the living shit out of the other.

Being that Taven & Daegon are half-gods, they have an advantage though. Look at Taven for instance. He pwned most of the cast in MKA, including Raiden and an Elder-God empowered Scorpion with his Shirai Ryu Clan.
Damn you for not being able to answer my questions sly

Who says the quote has to be different? Keep it the same awesome

Agreed. While they at least gave us a glimpse into his life and his family (which I appreciated, as it shows us a different side of Hanzo), they showed too little and dragged it out. Making him a general and a feared & renowned warrior was awesome.
I don't like the Mask either, and I hope it doesn't stay once he becomes a specter. Bi-Han had a mask that looked like his game counterpart's mask.

Indeed. There's also no way they could have kept the Jade Klassic costume exclusive to the PS3, not when they did not make an Xbox exclusive character.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
😂

YouTube video

And I thought my old vid of me fighting Dark Khan was out there... Such gay_rage!

Man, he must be the worst Liu Kang player ever. I'd have stomped Shao Kahn over and over again in all that time.

That said, I'm curious, why do people actually post up videos of such stuff? If they're being serious that is.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Good enough for me.
Also, speaking of Shang Tsung, I wonder how he'll come back to life if he has been sacrificed to Sindel, and Shao Kahn is no longer alive.

Meh, I could just wait for the Blu-ray or DVD and watch it. Besides, there are other movies out that I want to watch. Namely Green Lantern, The Hangover Part 2, & Kung Fu Panda 2 😛

Hmm, I guess it might have been due to a bad rep, but still, it's not like he had a bad design. And the new design looks nothing like Baraka. Heck, it doesn't even have the Tartakan mouth, while Mileena does facepalm
Yep.
Also, I wish the fights in MK:Legacy would have the ferocity that the Johnny-Baraka fight had in MK:Rebirth. I actually got the feeling that these were two people who wanted to kick the living shit out of the other.

Being that Taven & Daegon are half-gods, they have an advantage though. Look at Taven for instance. He pwned most of the cast in MKA, including Raiden and an Elder-God empowered Scorpion with his Shirai Ryu Clan.
Damn you for not being able to answer my questions sly

Who says the quote has to be different? Keep it the same awesome

Agreed. While they at least gave us a glimpse into his life and his family (which I appreciated, as it shows us a different side of Hanzo), they showed too little and dragged it out. Making him a general and a feared & renowned warrior was awesome.
I don't like the Mask either, and I hope it doesn't stay once he becomes a specter. Bi-Han had a mask that looked like his game counterpart's mask.

Indeed. There's also no way they could have kept the Jade Klassic costume exclusive to the PS3, not when they did not make an Xbox exclusive character.


I think Kahn's still alive. Just he's imprisoned somewhere by the Elder Gods as punishment.
From what I could tell, Tsung himself wasn't absorbed into Sindel. Kahn merely drained the souls Tsung had consumed from his body over the years and transferred them into Sindel to ensure her success, which seemingly killed him in the process. I noticed too when Raiden asked Quan Chi for assistance in the Netherrealm, Shang was not among the resurrected souls that fought Raiden, which could suggest that he's still alive somehow (perhaps he was learning that super technique thing from Bo' Rai Cho while Raiden was battling Quan's enslaved souls in the Netherrealm and what not).

Yep, there's always that. Looking forward to those films too.

Indeed. facepalm
And yeah, we didn't get that kind of vibe out of Legacy so far, sadly.. The closest thing we got to the ferocity of the Cage-Baraka fight was when Jax fought Kano. That was probably by far the best Kano yet IMO, not to say Trevor Goddard (RIP) didn't do a good job as him in the first movie..

Yeah, that's true. Even as half-gods, they're still plenty stronger than some full gods out there.

Heh, all right then, maybe.

Exactly. I liked Bi-Han's mask at least, with that said.

Yeah.. Apparently Microsoft or someone was to blame though for there not being an exclusive character for that system, as Ed Boon wanted to have one at first but they wouldn't let him (facepalm). Ah well, shit happens.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Man, he must be the worst Liu Kang player ever. I'd have stomped Shao Kahn over and over again in all that time.

That said, I'm curious, why do people actually post up videos of such stuff? If they're being serious that is.


I don't think they were serious, just as how I wasn't with the Dark Khan video. awesome Heard that dude rage quits a bunch of games and puts them on youtube. The MK9 one I posted was just one of 'em.. Funny stuff.

edit: On a side note, I just have 7 characters left to master now (as far as the 24-hour milestone) for the "My Kung-Fu is Stronger" trophy/achievement, with the other four milestones being maxed out for everyone. woot As for how I did it, well it's a little magic trick of mine... Hehe. This will be one new MK game that I actually complete this generation, unlike MKvsDC (****in kombo challenges).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Shao Khan was just lame.

What do you mean by "lame"?

It was lame fighting him?

The whole "ditch anything you can use for other fights and just exploit whatever you can find" is the epitome of lame.

Why not just focus on trying to win instead of just "how" you win?

Because how the game forces you to be lame is kind of, well, lame?

I really don't care. I beat him for the story mode and didn't bother with ladders.

To each his own I guess, but beating the ladder with certain characters was worth it to me for some of the kewler alternate costumes out there. Speaking of which, I kinda just noticed not too long ago that you can select the alternate color selection for either costume by pressing Start again on costume 1 or 2 to get the corresponding alternative color. Wish I had known that earlier, cuz Cage's suit looks much better as black than it does blue. Scorpion's dark orange on his alternate costume looks kinda cool as well.

In addition to what was not shown in the Klassic Skin Pack trailer I posted last page, classic Sektor and Cyrax should also be in the June 7th DLC, presumably.

No klassic Smoke though from what I've learned. Odd. mmm

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
What do you mean by "lame"?

As one reviewer pointed out, Shao Khan wasn't difficult so much as maddeningly cheap.

His moveset made it so that conventional victory was next to impossible without being uberskilled or lucky, to the point you had to beat him by using cheap tactics.

His fights thus weren't at all fun for me.

Maybe people wouldn't have that problem if they just try to focus on winning. In the end, that's what really matters. If people trying to have fun while fighting a boss and end up losing, well that's their fault for not being focused.

Besides, I still use cheap tactics to beat Kintaro and Shao Kahn in MK2 so it doesn't me at all. I'm just trying to win.

Does not make it any less stupid and lame for a lot of people. Sure that is how you view it, but gamers will play games for different reasons.

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Do we have to pay for the old school skins dlc?

Shao Kahn was really bad. He forced the player to basically just be cheap and spam in order to find whatever attack the AI was too stupid to deflect. Sad that it's still like that with bosses in fighting games. Really is no excuse these days.

It made sense back in the Arcade days to have the bosses be maddeningly obnoxious because the goal of the designers was to get you to pump as many quarters into the machine as physically possible, and having a retarded and cheap boss was an efficient, though no less lame, way of doing that. These days though, that's no longer the case. People buy the game and that's that. There's no reason to make the bosses annoyingly based on cheesy trial and error, getting the player used to using strategies that won't work in the "real" game, when fighting against players online. It's blatantly counter productive to do that now, it actively hurts the game by systematically lowering the review scores of the game (look at every review of the game and you will see one of the universal flaws referenced is the boss battles in the game). Hopefully the devs will get it through their head soon that this is not a good way to make their games.

🤨 I didn't realize somethin' like having to fight Kahn the way you did in the old days would be considered that much of a "flaw" in the game's reviews, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised... Could've been worse though. He could've been as cheap (boss-wise) as Dark Khan, but thankfully that wasn't the case. But I don't think someone like Kahn should ever be as easy to beat as any other opponent, if that's what y'all are getting at.

As for whether or not you gotta pay for the classic costumes DLC, don't know yet, but I guess we'll find out soon..

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Does not make it any less stupid and lame for a lot of people. Sure that is how you view it, but gamers will play games for different reasons.

Originally posted by BackFire
Shao Kahn was really bad. He forced the player to basically just be cheap and spam in order to find whatever attack the AI was too stupid to deflect. Sad that it's still like that with bosses in fighting games. Really is no excuse these days.

It made sense back in the Arcade days to have the bosses be maddeningly obnoxious because the goal of the designers was to get you to pump as many quarters into the machine as physically possible, and having a retarded and cheap boss was an efficient, though no less lame, way of doing that. These days though, that's no longer the case. People buy the game and that's that. There's no reason to make the bosses annoyingly based on cheesy trial and error, getting the player used to using strategies that won't work in the "real" game, when fighting against players online. It's blatantly counter productive to do that now, it actively hurts the game by systematically lowering the review scores of the game (look at every review of the game and you will see one of the universal flaws referenced is the boss battles in the game). Hopefully the devs will get it through their head soon that this is not a good way to make their games.

In the end, you're trying to win a match. It doesn't matter how you win. That's what many gamers need to realize. You so busy trying look good first and win second is the reason why you end up losing, especially when you're up against a boss (the final boss at that). Just do whatever you can to win and leave it at that.

You can try using these strategies and skills for when you're up against the regular characters like in Practice Mode or something but you when you're up against a boss, you best be trying to win. That should be the main focus there.

We did do whatever it took to win, it was still shitty and poorly designed, that's the point. Something can be challenging AND fun, it doesn't have to be cheap and cheesy and based on ancient outdated game design from over a decade ago.

There are no skills learned when fighting the bosses here that translate into actual matches. Unless finding the best spammable attack and abusing the shitty AI of the computer to quickly beat the end boss because the designers didn't give a shit about that part of the game somehow translates into strategies that can be used online now.

Aww, Skarlet's evil apparently, based on her ending here. Was hoping her alignment would be good..

YouTube video

There's gonna be a new trailer of her on Monday btw from what I heard.

Originally posted by BackFire
We did do whatever it took to win, it was still shitty and poorly designed, that's the point. Something can be challenging AND fun, it doesn't have to be cheap and cheesy and based on ancient outdated game design from over a decade ago.

There are no skills learned when fighting the bosses here that translate into actual matches. Unless finding the best spammable attack and abusing the shitty AI of the computer to quickly beat the end boss because the designers didn't give a shit about that part of the game somehow translates into strategies that can be used online now.

All of that isn't as important as trying to win the fight. You say he's cheap and cheesy, yet still found a way to win, so what's the point of complaining? Just fight and win.

Really, it's not like people are gonna be playing as Shao Kahn anyway so I still don't see what's the fuss about using a stategy when fighting him translating to actual matches. That just makes it all the more pointless to complain about.