XBOX 360 Kinect

Originally posted by Peach
Yeah, that's way too expensive.

Though I won't be surprised if that's about what the final price is going to be. The Playstation Move winds up at about $120 for everything, all told (the two controller pieces are going to be $50 and $30, and the camera is $40).

Move will cost 100$ bundled with a sub-"navigation" controller, a PS Eye Camera and one game (I think it'll be Move Party)

every Kinect game will cost 60$ (standard retail)

so you end up paying 210$ for Kinect and one game (plus taxes)
or a 100$ (plus taxes) for complete Move kit plus game 😐

Originally posted by Smasandian
My wife had a good point.

If the yoga game works exactly like it should, 150 bucks for it is a steal.

true that, but I have doubts it's going to have that much of an audience

... then again the Balance Board it's almost that expensive, and it sold.... of course it had Wii Fit bundled

one thing though about the kinect vs the move, the move you need to have more controllers to have more than one person play, while the kinect you only need one to have as many people as the game will allow play. so in that sense its a bargain.

but the move still looks WAY better to me

The Kinect also has the "it does not work well if you are wearing black" issues and the like.

Also, frankly, your options are more limited without something physical to interact with.

I rather have Kinect than Move.

I already have a Move, the Wii, why would I want another one. At least MS tried something different.

The Virtual Boy was different.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I rather have Kinect than Move.

I already have a Move, the Wii, why would I want another one. At least MS tried something different.

Doesn't seem that different to me, just a bit more high-tech.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The Virtual Boy was different.

True.

And the Wii was different also.

In the end, it's a perpherial so if it doesn't work, we still get the same old 360.

I can understand all the complaining if the next 360 console is just Kinect but it's side product and it won't affect the games coming to the console.

The Wii was also cheap and a few years ago. If the Kinect is going to be this pricey this many years on it will need to be awesome. I'm not hearing that.

That's fine.

But my original statement stands, I rather have Kinect than Move because I already have the Wii.

The reason is because it's different. If it works, then that's good, if not, then I don't lose anything.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I rather have Kinect than Move.

I already have a Move, the Wii, why would I want another one. At least MS tried something different.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Also, frankly, your options are more limited without something physical to interact with.

Originally posted by menokokoro
yes....because a camera that follows your motion hasn't ever been done before..........and the move is better than the wii. the wii senses motion acceleration and where it is pointing. the move senses all of the above plus where in the room it is, plus in real time, its virtually instantaneously, as apposed to the wii's delay

That's great.

The Move will be implemented the same way as the Wii. Instead of using a control stick to shoot, you point at the screen.

****, they even showed a demo of somebody shooting a bow and arrow.

I'm not saying I'm picking up Kinect, or Move. I'm just saying that if I had a choice, I would get Kinect just because its different than what the the Move and Wii offer.

Spoony and Angry Joe here trying out the kinect at E3.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/aj/as/24780-spoony-angry-joe-play-kinect

Spoony is a big misery just like me, but even Joe is a bit phased by being told his jacket will mess it up.

Read Joe's comments in red a little way down for a more optimistic assessment.

UK Retailer Prices Kinect
ShopTo first out of the stables – and it's not pretty.

In the wake of several US retailers listing the price of Microsoft's Kinect, a UK site has listed a price for the motion control-enabling device as ShopTo puts a 129.99 GBP price tag on the unit.

A 149.99 USD price point was listed by US retailers – and by Microsoft's own site – which roughly translates as 99 GBP. Given the inflated price that UK gamers have become accustomed to, ShopTo's listing of 129.99 GBP (spotted by Eurogamer) seems in tune with what's being speculated in the US.

Despite the fact that its own site listed the price, Microsoft is still yet to confirm how much we can expect to pay for Kinect.

😐

Pricing FAIL

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Spoony and Angry Joe here trying out the kinect at E3.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/aj/as/24780-spoony-angry-joe-play-kinect

Spoony is a big misery just like me, but even Joe is a bit phased by being told his jacket will mess it up.

Read Joe's comments in red a little way down for a more optimistic assessment.

as for kinect's price. LOL Wut?

I follow spoony quite religiously.

And yes, as I mentioned above, that is insanely price. It would have to be MUCH better to be worth anything close to that.

I was wondering, will one be able to scroll through the dashboard menu using their penis with kinect?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I was wondering, will one be able to scroll through the dashboard menu using their penis with kinect?

Kinect Priced, Bundle and New Console Model Announced
The speculation ends now.

Microsoft has announced several new product bundles that will be coming to market in the coming weeks and months. Even better, the company has finally offered an official price on both the stand-alone Kinect sensor and a bundled version that comes with a new Xbox 360. There's a lot of info here, so let's get right to it.

First up, the price. Kinect will have a suggested retail price of $149.99 (£129.99/€149.99 in Europe), as many online retailers have recently guessed. The news is that Kinect will be bundled with a free game, Kinect Adventures. All first-party Kinect games will have a suggested retail price of $49.99 (£39.99 in the UK) and Microsoft expects that to be the standard, though it is leaving third-party pricing up to those publishers.

Kinect on its own comes with a game for $150.

At least one third-party game will follow that standard. Microsoft has announced that Dance Central, from Harmonix and MTV Games, will also retail for $49.99/£39.99.

For those new to Xbox 360, Microsoft will have a special Kinect console bundle available at the November 4 launch of the sensor. For $299 (or £249.99/€299.99 in Europe), the bundle will include an Xbox 360 console, the Kinect sensor and Kinect Adventures. The Xbox 360 will be the previously confirmed $199 redesigned Xbox 360, not the 250 GB model that has spurred sales in the past month.

Microsoft has also announced the full details on that new Xbox 360 console model, which will be available August 3 in North America, August 20 in the UK and later in the month around the world. This version will have a 4GB internal flash memory, but no 250 GB hard drive. It still has a built in Wi-Fi N adapter, as well as all of the other bells and whistles of the 250 GB Xbox 360. The internal hard drive bay will remain, but will be empty at purchase. You'll be able to tell the difference between this new 4GB console and the 250 GB version as the 4GB model will have a black matte finish as opposed to the glossy finish on the more expensive model. Again, this 4GB model will cost $199 in the US.

The full Kinect console bundle will cost $299.

Currently, there are no plans to sell the 250 GB hard drive that comes with the recently launched "slim" model separately.

Aaron Greenberg, Director of Product Management of Xbox 360 and Xbox Live, explained the pricing and bundle choices to IGN during a pre-announcement news briefing.

"We don't really make pricing decisions without doing a lot of research. We talked with thousands of consumers across a whole variety of audience segments, on a global scale. What we heard was that when people look at what they get with the Kinect sensor -- all the experiences it enables across entertainment, movies, music, using your voice to access your entertainment, your gestures navigating the dash, etc. plus all of the games coming to market -- our research shows that at $149 consumers feel like it's a great value for existing owners. And then for new buyers, the $299 bundle is extremely compelling."

"We're currently a full $100 less than the PS Move bundle which is $400, which is a single player experience. Obviously if you add a second player to that they get well over $500 pretty quickly."

Available August 3 in North America will be the new 4GB Xbox 360 for $199.

As for why Microsoft chose Kinect Adventures as the free game to include, Greenberg said it had a lot to do with offering something new. "It's a great broad appeal game for existing and new buyers. It's got more than 20 game modes, everything from River Rush to Obstacle Course...We did a lot of testing with consumers and we really felt like this title had a great broad appeal. It's full body, it integrates voice. It's great jump-in jump-out multiplayer. We think it's a fun game to play for existing owners as well as new consumers...We thought about Kinect Sports, but we felt like Adventures was more new and unique."

Those who pre-order Kinect, either on its own or in the $299 bundle, will receive a download token for three additional exclusive levels for Kinect Adventures.

The $299 bundle allows new consumers to get Kinect at a cheaper cost than those that buy everything separately. Greenberg noted this in saying, "That's our primary focus, at least for launch, is the opportunity to expand the market."

Update: Microsoft Australia has told IGN that AU pricing and release details are going to be announced in the coming days. Check back soon.

What do you think of the Kinect and bundle pricing? Will you pick up any of the new products? Leave a comment and let us know what you think of Microsoft's decisions.

at least now it comes bundle with a game... as crappy as it might be

the dance central bundle seems more appealing though

....and:

Kinect Limit at Two Players?
Microsoft simultaneously offers clarification and dodges the question.

The Kinect multiplayer limit remains a mystery, but it seems that all launch games will be set at two players. In a recent discussion with Aaron Greenberg, Director of Product Management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live at Microsoft, IGN was given scant new details on what to expect as far as multiplayer limits go for Kinect.

When asked for clarification on the multiplayer limit for Kinect, Greenberg said, "Right now, I think most of the experiences are focused on two-player for the launch titles. But we haven't gotten any more specific beyond that at this point."

The rush to meet launch deadlines may be to blame for this limit, or there may be software or hardware limitations that make expanding games beyond two players difficult. When asked about online multiplayer possibilities for Adrenalin Misfits back at E3, IGN was told that the short development time Konami had for the game prevented the developers from adding such features.

For now, expect games to have two-player multiplayer until we hear otherwise.

No word yet on the Penis-dashboard funtionality