Exar Kun vs. Starkiller

Started by kill7r6 pages

Exar, and he does it with or without the amulets. Seriously, could somebody remind me what was so incredibly powerful about them again? He's displayed vastly superior abilities without them, such as draining the entire Massassi race and freezing hundreds of thousands of senators (both grander in scale at the very least).

they killed ulic, his single greatest combat feat, and could be fired several times a second, with more power each time. The unblockable weapon.

Except that Kun never killed Ulic... 😐

Kun seemed to have the advantage in their duel, then Ragnos appeared and crowned Exar Dark Lord of the Sith because he was more powerful, with Ulic as his apprentice. All without any combat help from the amulet or gauntlets (what gauntlets?)

Exar Kun's feats are a little hard to quantify since the levels of the characters he beat are hard to determine.

In terms of Exar Kun's combat abilities, I'd say he's an unknown, which to some people (hint Janus Marius) means that he's uber.

According to the Star Wars Insider magazine, Marek was "an extremely powerful and primal Force-user." Marek abused the Force and it is likely that Kun wouldn't be able to defeat a Force-user like Marek.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i'm trying to remember an impressive force feat exar has displayed that is actually quantifiable and would put him on galen's level

only thing that comes to mind is freezing the senate chamber, a feat that no one is sure can even be used in a combat situation.

galen takes it.

It wouldn't make much difference anyway, since when he froze the senate chamber the Jedi were unaffected.

Originally posted by truejedi
he killed ulic with the amulets, right?

Wrong.

Exar didn't kill Ulic. Ulic was blinded to the Force by Nomi Sunrider.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'd bring up him blocking lightsabers with a wooden stick....but after TOR "Hope" trailer with that female Jedi blocking lightsabers bare-handed, it doesn't seem so impressive. 🙁

Yeah, she was awesome.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'd bring up him blocking lightsabers with a wooden stick....but after TOR "Hope" trailer with that female Jedi blocking lightsabers bare-handed, it doesn't seem so impressive. 🙁

Nejaa Halcyon, Coran Horn's grandfather, could also absorb a lightsaber's power like that Jedi.

BTW Galen wins.

Originally posted by ares834
Nejaa Halcyon, Coran Horn's grandfather, could also absorb a lightsaber's power like that Jedi.

BTW Galen wins.

In that situation it was controlled and he had his hands around it, he wasn't blocking a thrust and holding it back with merely a single palm.
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and make the saber look like it was going to break in half, I mean really?

I'm not sure it was actually breaking... maybe destabalizing or maybe they did it because it looks cool or... **** it. It makes no sense.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm not sure it was actually breaking... maybe destabalizing or maybe they did it because it looks cool or... **** it. It makes no sense.
No it doesn't. At all. Even if the saber managed to destabalise I would akin that to more like it shorting out? Or looking like the unstable effect from TFU.

Originally posted by mattatom
No it doesn't. At all. Even if the saber managed to destabalise I would akin that to more like it shorting out? Or looking like the unstable effect from TFU.

Well I think that the containment field was rupturing.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Well I think that the containment field was rupturing.
In that case surely it would be all the way along? Like splinters in glass when its about to shatter?

Unless there was a node (or antenode (sp?)) of some kind at that point; there's really no way to know how a "containment field" works, and harmonics sounds science-fiction-y so it is extremely plausible.

😐

What?

Originally posted by mattatom
In that situation it was controlled and he had his hands around it, he wasn't blocking a thrust and holding it back with merely a single palm.
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and make the saber look like it was going to break in half, I mean really?

That could simply mean she's better at energy absorption than Nejaa was.

Exar Kun took Luke Skywalker soul, I think that speaks for it's self. i think people are forgetting that Exar was trained in sith magic and alchemy w/guanlets that's moe than enough to beat galen imo.

He took his soul with the help of one of the most powerful raw force users in the entire mythos.

Let's not gleam over that, shall we?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
He took his soul with the help of one of the most powerful raw force users in the entire mythos.

No. Exar Kun's body didn't exist.

biscuits

Originally posted by truejedi
they killed ulic, his single greatest combat feat, and could be fired several times a second, with more power each time. The unblockable weapon.

What the hell are you talking about...?

Exar and Ulic reached a stalemate in a lightsaber fight. Ragnos popped up and declared Kun to be the Dark Lord of the Sith. Considering that Ulic (later) was capable of fending off an enraged Jedi without having access to his force abilities any longer, this is quite impressive. Considering further that Kun did develop his double-bladed lightsaber (and became even more dangerous in lightsaber duels) after this incident, he can't be too bad with that weapon.

But how does it matter? Kun has access to so many offensive Dark Side abilities that Galen is going to be force raped - no matter if Kun gets his amulets or not.