Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What I am asking is this: On a professional level, which of the following is the easiest/hardest transition:NFL to soccer
NFL to rugby
Soccer to NFL
Soccer to rugby
Rugby to NFL
Rugby to soccer
Rugby players could maybe play defense in soccer. Could all play Football, quite easily too.
American footballers could play Rugby, though I do question their stamina in the long haul.
What's your angle here?
Originally posted by Robtard
The soccer players could play certain aspects of Football, possibly wide receiver, since they have speed. Though the skinny guys should stay clear.Rugby players could maybe play defense in soccer. Could all play Football, quite easily too.
American footballers could play Rugby, though I do question their stamina in the long haul.
What's your angle here?
Angle is that NFL players are stronger, faster and bigger. This means bigger hits, hits that would crush a rugby player.
Imagine Ray Lewis (In full pads) hitting a rugby player (without pads FTW) full force.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Angle is that NFL players are stronger, faster and bigger. This means bigger hits, hits that would crush a rugby player.Imagine Ray Lewis (In full pads) hitting a rugby player (without pads FTW) full force.
Yes but they are certainly not fitter. American footballers wouldnt last 5 minutes on a rugby pitch. Yet many rugby players have converted to american football.
a rugby squad will make (literally again) over one hundred tackles during a match, as opposed to the 20 to 30 that a football squad will make. Rugby players don't get a breather after every tackle and (almost) all substitutions are permanent. That means that of your starting side of 22 players, at least 8 must be on the pitch for the entire 80 minute match. Your biggest, slowest prop on a rugby squad is still going to have to cover five or six miles on the pitch during a match, while some football linemen will cover more distance running to and from the bench than they will while the ball is actually live. There is a reason why professional rugby players max out at about 280 lbs – it is impossible for a man larger than that to be “fit” enough to play rugby.
So, if by tougher, you mean who can deal with fatigue and the pain which comes from the lactic acid building up in your thighs over 80 minutes of pretty much continuous play, with no chance of a rest on the bench and while dealing out and taking what are still some pretty hard knocks, then it is the rugby player who "wins" this little competition.
OK, I'll concede this.....Soccer players are probably in the best shape here, they can no doubt run for a longer period of time. Endurance certainly goes to them.
Rugby? I would have to see how a rugby player holds up in a professional football game. Example? Take a kickass rugby player and see if he can catch and bring down Roger Craig.:
Or Barry Sanders:
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Or bring down this beast. Mr. Earl Campbell:
Or even run the ball the way they did.
Shit, Earl would bowl over an entire rugby team on his way to the goal line and still have time to rape a white woman.
lol put them in a rugby match and see how long they last without there padding.
And for every 3 so called tough guys you can name, i could name 3 huge rugby players.
eye of the tiger man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGCsEQ15L4&feature=related
no padding necessary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jULWyiSNM_w
Originally posted by Deano
lol put them in a rugby match and see how long they last without there padding.And for every 3 so called tough guys you can name, i could name 3 huge rugby players.
eye of the tiger man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGCsEQ15L4&feature=relatedno padding necessary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jULWyiSNM_w
Vice versa, put the rugby players in full NFL pads and see how effective they are. I'm not questioning their toughness, I'd be a fool to do that. I'm simply that an NFL player has to wear pads because they are bigger, faster and stronger.
Originally posted by Deano
Therefore pointless arguing because each sport is different and requires different attributes.American football would be good without the stoppages. Thats my only gripe with the sport overall. Thats why rugby is much more exciting to watch in my opinion
Well, it's a game of inches. If it's 4th and 1, and a play is run up the middle, they have to stop and measure. Not to mention penalties.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How big is the average rugby player? How much do they weigh? How fast can they run? How strong are they?Put the best rugby player out there in pads, you think he can block Ray Lewis? Or blitz past the O line of the Colts? Or Bring down Ricky Williams?
What about if we turn your question around, you think an american football player will be professional level at Rugby?