The Old Republic Sith Empire vs the Yuuzhan Vong

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Ancient sith sorcery couldn't do everything, which is made apparent in that the ancient sith lost every war against the Jedi and the Republic. There's no proof that the sith could replicate Alpha Red, and even if they could the YV would still pwn them.

Ancient Sith sorcery could rip the core from multiple stars simultaneously.

The Sith mutated multiple species, including the Massassi and, I would assume, humans. That's originally how the exiled Dark Jedi reproduced with their Sith slaves - by using sorcery to make themselves compatible.

There isn't a good reason for believing that the Sith would be unable to engineer something against the Vong.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ancient Sith sorcery could rip the core from multiple stars simultaneously.

The Sith mutated multiple species, including the Massassi and, I would assume, humans. That's originally how the exiled Dark Jedi reproduced with their Sith slaves - by using sorcery to make themselves compatible.

There isn't a good reason for believing that the Sith would be unable to engineer something against the Vong.

Actually it seemed more like stopping the fusion inside of the star and the accelerating the aging process of thousands of years into a second.

Originally posted by Autokrat
Actually it seemed more like stopping the fusion inside of the star and the accelerating the aging process of thousands of years into a second.

"Aleema has used the Sith power in Naga Sadow's ancient ship to rip the core from the center of one of the ten stars in the Cron cluster." Sith War #4.

"Aleema triggers the Sith weapon that rips the core out of a star, instantly devastating the Jedi fleet." Sith War #5

Originally posted by Autokrat
Actually it seemed more like stopping the fusion inside of the star and the accelerating the aging process of thousands of years into a second.

Originally posted by Enyalus
"Aleema has used the Sith power in Naga Sadow's ancient ship to rip the core from the center of one of the ten stars in the Cron cluster." Sith War #4.

"Aleema triggers the Sith weapon that rips the core out of a star, instantly devastating the Jedi fleet." Sith War #5

I need to stop trying to explain bullshit like this in a vaguely plausible manner. Star Wars is like super squishy soft.

Originally posted by Letum Lettow
That's even more complex and impressive. 😈

And it's also largely irrelevant unless the Sith Fleet was away from the proximity of the supernova.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ancient Sith sorcery could rip the core from multiple stars simultaneously.

The Sith mutated multiple species, including the Massassi and, I would assume, humans. That's originally how the exiled Dark Jedi reproduced with their Sith slaves - by using sorcery to make themselves compatible.

There isn't a good reason for believing that the Sith would be unable to engineer something against the Vong.

Except that the Yuuchan Vong aren't directly affected by the Force.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Except that the Yuuchan Vong aren't directly affected by the Force.

That's true, I overlooked that. Using the Force directly on the Vong's biology won't work. But there's nothing stopping the Sith from using the Force to enhance their own "natural" bio-engineering experiments.

I still feel the entire Vong armada would win due to b*tchin numbers and highly advanced tech/weapons. But due to the Sith's aggressive nature and penchant for brutality. It would be a Pyrrhic victory.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I still feel the entire Vong armada would win due to b*tchin numbers and highly advanced tech/weapons. But due to the Sith's aggressive nature and penchant for brutality. It would be a Pyrrhic victory.

Now, Kun's Empire is another matter entirely. Naddists, Krath, Sith, Fallen Jedi and Mandalorians....that might work.

You forgot Kun himself. With merely a planetary populace worth of sacrifices, he could burn a world to a crisp.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm coming around to that opinion, too. The Vong had 5,000 ships for the attack on Mon Calamari...I don't know if that included coralskippers, but if it didn't....Sadow's Sith Empire doesn't have the numbers to stop that.

Now, Kun's Empire is another matter entirely. Naddists, Krath, Sith, Fallen Jedi and Mandalorians....that might work.

Originally posted by Letum Lettow
You forgot Kun himself. With merely a planetary populace worth of sacrifices, he could burn a world to a crisp.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Still got the tech problem though. And unlike the Ancient Sith, there are a lot of... lesser species here. Excluding the Mandalorians and maybe the hardcore Sith zealots, the regular humans who make up the bulk of these forces just don't have the sheer tenacity and strength of will to match the Vong's burning drive of victory at any cost.

Also, apparently they can pull a Wraith Squadron-like atmospheric insertion, being deployed from pods in orbit directly to the surface.

And you still have all the pluses of Sadow's Empire - Aleema being able to use illusions and using his ship to destroy stars, Exar's uberness, Ulic being one of the greatest duelists in Jedi history....

Also worth noting that Mandalore repulsed the Vong invasion when it rolled around to their corner of the galaxy, and they're far more numerous in Exar's time.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh, well, the Krath used war droids which killed 'many' of the 'thousands' of Jedi present at the Battle of Deneba. And, at least looks-wise the Krath War Droids kind of resemble the YVH-series. Plus they're armed with pulse-wave pistols, a short sword, and made of durasteel.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Also, apparently they can pull a Wraith Squadron-like atmospheric insertion, being deployed from pods in orbit directly to the surface.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And you still have all the pluses of Sadow's Empire - Aleema being able to use illusions

Originally posted by Enyalus
and using his ship to destroy stars,

Originally posted by Enyalus
Exar's uberness,

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ulic being one of the greatest duelists in Jedi history....

Originally posted by Enyalus
Also worth noting that Mandalore repulsed the Vong invasion when it rolled around to their corner of the galaxy, and they're far more numerous in Exar's time.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Are these war droids designed specifically to combat the Yuuzhan Vong ala Lando's?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm actually playing Halo ODST right now.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Illusion just like Luke used? On the Vong?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That's gonna do quite a number on the Vong at first.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Luke, Kyp, Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, Corran, Katarn, Ganner...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Luke, Kyp, Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, Corran, Katarn, Ganner...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Were Exar's Mandalorians not defeated by the 4000 years ago Old Republic?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Were the new Mandalorians led by someone named Boba "Invincible" Fett, armed with NJO-era technology, and commanding what Wookiee refers to as "a fleet"?

Originally posted by Enyalus

shrug They killed Jedi...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ya know, the illusion to cloak Yavin 4 worked until Luke made the moronic error of not leaving enough Jedi on the planet to maintain the illusion. Illusions would work on the Vong.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I more or less by Exar's uberness meant his Sith sorcery which created battle hydras, terentateks, Night Beasts, ripped the souls out of Massassi children (the Golden Globe incident), and the Dark Reaper superweapon. I mean, all he has to do is point it at a world he doesn't like or knows he can't defend, drain it, then fire it at a Vong-filled world and he has a Sith-based Death Star.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Jacen, Jaina, Anakin and Ganner....better/on Ulic's level? C'mon.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No, I'm pretty sure Exar's Mandalorians were defeated because Ulic betrayed them and Aleema was a backstabbing whore.

Wookiee's article on the Battle of Onderon has this to say: "In the skies of above Onderon, the Beast Riders and the Mandalorians on their Basilisk war droids proved to be equally matched. After experiencing taunts from Oron Kira and his men, Mandalore then rallied his troops, fighting with unbridled ferocity. Just as it seemed as though the tide had turned in favor of the Mandalorians, Republic reinforcements in the form of two capital ships commanded by Fleet Captain Vanicus arrived on the battlefront, lending critical firepower to the battle.

Caught between the Republic forces and the Beast Riders, the Mandalorian forces were devastated, although Vanicus at first attempted crippling the enemy ships, a feat which proved impossible due to their deflector-shielding. The only course of action of victory or death. Calling a retreat to the moon of Dxun, Mandalore the Indomitable believed he could lose the Republic pursuit in its dense jungles. Unfortunately for Mandalore, while retreating, a Republic frigate fired upon his Basilisk war droid, and he crashed in the forests far away from the other Mandalorian troops. Rising from the wreckage, Lord Mandalore was immediately set upon by two large beasts of the moon, and was devoured."

I never liked playing through Onderon in KotOR II.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Fairly confident in saying that the Mandalorians of this era possessed at least several fleets, considering how numerous they were and their ability to take on the entire Republic by themselves just 20 years later.

Aw, you're gonna count the whole 'One with the Force' thing as being part of their skill level? They died to do it. 😛 Couldn't do it continuously.

And yeah, Dxun is a scary place. 😐 Poor Mandalore...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Aw, you're gonna count the whole 'One with the Force' thing as being part of their skill level? They died to do it. 😛 Couldn't do it continuously.