Originally posted by Colossus-Big CI doubt Chaos King is abstract level. Don't over delude this.
have you been reading the interviews?
Mika is an abstract like entity he is the personification of the void before the big bang, not to mention there are also gods that are abstract like entites in 616 as well he has far more than the skrull gods in his legion and they said some abstracts will be involved in chaos war ,lord choas oblivion galactus for example
Originally posted by vansonbeeim not over deluding anything im telling you exactly what the writers stated, he is the void that came before the universe even galactus universe which is the whole point of the "choas king"
I doubt Chaos King is abstract level. Don't over delude this.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
have you been reading the interviews?
Mika is an abstract like entity he is the personification of the void before the big bang, not to mention there are also gods that are abstract like entites in 616 as well he has far more than the skrull gods in his legion and they said some abstracts will be involved in chaos war ,lord choas oblivion galactus for example
They only said his relationship to Lord Chaos and Oblivion would "have to be seen in Chaos War: Chaos King #1." Doesn't really say whether they will get involved or hardly even promises that the relationship between them all would be explained. Sounded more like they would have an exposition of what Mika is, and then we're supposed to reconcile that vs. what we know about Lord Chaos and Oblivion.
Mika is not an abstract-like entity. At least not yet. To date his greatest feat is killing sky fathers. That's not all that impressive when juxtaposed against beings like the Celestials.
If the Cancer-verse invaded now, found Mika, they would pimp slap him back to Japan.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIread my last post
They only said his relationship to Lord Chaos and Oblivion would "have to be seen in Chaos War: Chaos King #1." Doesn't really say whether they will get involved or hardly even promises that the relationship between them all would be explained. Sounded more like they would have an exposition of what Mika is, and then we're supposed to reconcile that vs. what we know about Lord Chaos and Oblivion.Mika is not an abstract-like entity. At least not yet. To date his greatest feat is killing sky fathers. That's not all that impressive when juxtaposed against beings like the Celestials.
If the Cancer-verse invaded now, found Mika, they would pimp slap him back to Japan.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
im not over deluding anything im telling you exactly what the writers stated, he is the void that came before the universe even galactus universe which is the whole point of the "choas king"
they also said he is a bigger threat than galactus
now even if he isnt abstract level he is indeed a abstractual concept
That doesn't really say anything to say "he's a bigger threat than Galactus."
OF COURSE he's a bigger threat than Galactus. Galactus seeks universal balance and harmony. Dr. Doom is a greater threat than Galactus. Thanos is a far greater threat to the universe than Galactus. Do we all need to be reminded what happened beteween Thanos and Big G when they met face to face?
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIhis uper power will be shown in chaos war
he has done NOTHING. It doesn't matter if they call him LT...the most he's done is level godlings and pantheons. Small time. They're essentially retconing his background with Chaos War into something far bigger than he was before.
oblivion, master hate, lord chaos, mistress love, master order pretty much have done nothing at all in terms of power but they are abstracts right? oblivion was defeated by ice man so i guess he is about meta level then heck he couldnt even kill juggernaut and he is as powerful as eternity
how is it a retcon?
in mythology thats exactly with mika is....
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
he has done NOTHING. It doesn't matter if they call him LT...the most he's done is level godlings and pantheons. Small time. .
Dormmamu
mephisto
shuma gorath
vishanti
zom
are all gods so they are all small time to i guess?
mephisto(the weakest here) in his realm is rougly galactus and mikaboshi is going to face him in chaos war 2 in his realm
galactus himself is involve anyway and i doubt he would get involved in what you describe this to be
i also think the term abstract is overated i saw in a ohotmu on abstracts that said they are gods that are more powerful than them
Originally posted by Colossus-Big COblivion stalemated Infinity, MO and LC have been acknowledged by LT as the supreme beings in the realm of the Vishanti, created another abstract in In-Betweener, as as for Iceman, that's a case of SM vs. FL.
his uper power will be shown in chaos waroblivion, master hate, lord chaos, mistress love, master order pretty much have done nothing at all in terms of power but they are abstracts right? oblivion was defeated by ice man so i guess he is about meta level then
how is it a retcon?
in mythology thats exactly with mika is....
Chronos exists in the MU, but he was the supreme personification of Time in the Greek mythologies. In the MU he does not have that station. Eternity does. Myth =/= Marvel.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Dormmamu
mephisto
shuma gorath
vishanti
zomare all gods so they are all small time to i guess?
mephisto in his realm is rougly galactus and mikaboshi is going to face hm in chaos war 2 in his realm
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Dormmamu
mephisto
shuma gorath
vishanti
zomare all gods so they are all small time to i guess?
mephisto in his realm is rougly galactus and mikaboshi is going to face hm in chaos war 2 in his realm
No, they are not all gods. Not even close. Aside from Mephisto and depending on how Dormammu is written, they are all comfortably above the likes of Zeus and Odin.
Aside from the Vishanti (who live in the realm of Master Order and Lord Chaos) and Zom (who is not a pantheon god...he is a demon), all of those listed rule their own dimensions. None of the pantheons that Mika has vanquished can even say they rule the planet that their based on, much less the dimension.
Mephisto's highest-end feat was facing Galactus in his realm and shaking the firmament in their ensuing battle. He's been defeated by SS and Thor and Doom in his realm before. He's not equal to Galactus in his realm. No.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIbut my point was that mika is not being retcon there are just applying his myth to the marvel universeChronos exists in the MU, but he was the supreme personification of Time in the Greek mythologies. In the MU he does not have that station. Eternity does. Myth =/= Marvel.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CThey are the frst living things in the cosmos, now inhabiting the emptiness between parallele universes.
the guys in the cancerverse are gods/demons why wouldnt it interlope? the writer in the interview said they do but he isnt saying anything about it yet
mikaboshi would probably take over the cancerverse godshow is it a smaller event though? his goal is to destroy the multiverse not a single universe
Mikaboshi wasnt an abstract and if he is geting promoted to the void before the big bang, which is just Oblivion to begin with, that's even lamer than I thought. So far, nothing indicates he can actually destroy the multiverse.
Originally posted by 753in mythology he is the void before the big bang, there just appliying that to his character in marvel
They are the frst living things in the cosmos, now inhabiting the emptiness between parallele universes.Mikaboshi wasnt an abstract and if he is geting promoted to the void before the big bang, which is just Oblivion to begin with, that's even lamer than I thought. So far, nothing indicates he can actually destroy the multiverse.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
but my point was that mika is not being retcon there are just applying his myth to the marvel universe
But that is why I said he is being retconned. He's been around for 5 or 6 years but only now are they applying what his myth exactly means to the corollary in the MU.
In other words this is parallel with an event taking place called Chronos War where Chronos wants to rule and govern all of time in the MU. Well now they have to reconcile that fact with someone else, namely Eternity, having that station. Oblivion currently holds the station that Mika is aspiring for...Lord Chaos holds the title that's attached to Mika's name.
In fact the retcon is even more explicit in that they have him predating Galan of Taa's universe...the japanese myth just has him predating the universe. So marvel is retconing him to predate two separate eras.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C"Gods" and "demons" in marvel are just the natives of other dimensions. Most of the ones you listed aren't considered gods in marvel. Their respective power levels are far above the likes of thor and odin. SG for instance is a primordial chaos demon born at the begining of the universe and east dimensions. He is likely related to the cthonic deities that spread their influence to the cancerverse as they share many similarities. The many angled ones got rid of death in one universe, that makes them ubber-abstract level, at least collectively.
[B]Dormmamu
mephisto
shuma gorath
vishanti
zomare all gods so they are all small time to i guess?
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIthey kinda sorta did that when chronus of the eternals(who most have counterparts in the olympion pantheons) randomly got merged with eternity
In other words this is parallel with an event taking place called Chronos War where Chronos wants to rule and govern all of time in the MU. Well now they have to reconcile that fact with someone else, namely Eternity, having that station. Oblivion currently holds the station that Mika is aspiring for...Lord Chaos holds the title that's attached to Mika's name.
Originally posted by 753do you now see how thanos imperative can cross over with chaos war ? 😄
. SG for instance is a primordial chaos demon born at the begining of the universe . He is likely related to the cthonic deities that spread their influence to the cancerverse as they share many similarities.