Originally posted by TheTyrantYou underestimate Thor. Magneto would be one shotted by Thor. One lightning charged super hammer throw and he is out. Then Thor would deal with apacolypse which would be longer and give Thor trouble but a bloodied Thor comes out victorious. 😎
Either of them can give Thor trouble. Mags has owned him at least one time. Apocalypse is even more powerful. Thor by himself IMO can get a 6-7/10 against either individually, but together? He doesn't stand a chance. Team 10/10.
Originally posted by Damborgson
You underestimate Thor. Magneto would be one shotted by Thor. One lightning charged super hammer throw and he is out. Then Thor would deal with apacolypse which would be longer and give Thor trouble but a bloodied Thor comes out victorious. 😎
How many times has Thor one-shotted Magneto exactly?
Originally posted by Damborgsonmagneto can absorb electricity
You underestimate Thor. Magneto would be one shotted by Thor. One lightning charged super hammer throw and he is out. Then Thor would deal with apacolypse which would be longer and give Thor trouble but a bloodied Thor comes out victorious. 😎
Magneto needs to keep out of CQC with Thor. However that is rather difficult when you consider how fast Mjolnir pulls Thor along behind him. He could avoid the lightning and such by putting up a big lightning rod negating Thor's long range stuff.
Magneto's biggest problem comes from the need for the environment to be just right. He would probably need to get something on the level of adamantium or vibranium to really hurt Thor and keep him down but because this is Marvel NY there is probably some amount of it somewhere.
I'd say the fight is a 6/10 in Magneto's favor just because he can probably keep out of range long enough to mount enough of an offensive that Thor wouldn't have the time to get close enough to crush his skull. However if Thor ever gets within striking distance I'm calling a Magneto KO because he really doesn't have the close combat ability nor the durability to stand up to Thor in a physical fight.
Originally posted by Lord S
Given Apoc's (albeit futuristic version) rather easy handling of Thor in the latest Avengers issue, I'd say this fight is pretty one-sided.
Yup. Not too much of a fight between them, but at least Apoc shook off Thor`s best hammer charge with no ill effects like he should. Poccy is durable enough to ignore pretty much any physical attack and with his shields, morphing and regeneration is nigh impossible to put down that way.
Both Apoc and Mags would give Thor a hell of a fight one on one. Don`t forget that Mags have received upgrades since their other fights too (we are not talking current 1/3 powered Mags I persume)
Team whups him, he needs a plot device to pull wins here.
Originally posted by TheTyrantgood for him. lets see him absorb some a lightning bolt 10 times hotter than the surface of the sun. which is traveling 186,000 miles/sec. And thats just one average bolt. Thor is the god of thunder. Magneto would get fried.
So, out of all the times they have fought, Magneto has never been one shotted by Thor, yet we are supposed to believe that he will be one shotted here? Nah, not buying it.
Originally posted by TheTyrantokay dont believe it. Dont believe that the god of thunder with a planet shattering, weather controlling, magical hammer can one shot a genetic mutation. Thor has hit so hard his hammer dazed juggernaut even with his full shield on and he was being amped by other magical energies. He has one shotted silver surfer and caused extreme pain to galactus. Magneto cannot hold up to a blow where Thor is actually trying to hurt him. The fact that he is fighting to opponents would also make him want to even the odds quicker.
So, out of all the times they have fought, Magneto has never been one shotted by Thor, yet we are supposed to believe that he will be one shotted here? Nah, not buying it.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
So, out of all the times they have fought, Magneto has never been one shotted by Thor, yet we are supposed to believe that he will be one shotted here? Nah, not buying it.
He wouldn't be oneshotted by Thor, and to add to this, Thor would have to hold out against Apocalyse too! Not happening. These are two major hitters. One can hold Thor in an steel prison reinforced by magnetic force, and the other can curb his butt with future tech. Thor would lose.
Depends on how bad Thor wants to win...
Against normal Thor; the Thor that pulls his punches...the Thor that just doesnt use his full arsenal of powers...that Thor loses here more often than not.
Against a bloodlusted Thor or a Thor that feels he has to defeat these guys at any cost, he literally kills Magneto (Thor can accomplish this several different ways and Magneto has no defense against any of them) and beats Apoc unconscious (and can kill him too if he is hell bent on doing so)...
Please not the holding back argument. I expect it from supes and spidey fanboys but not Thor. A serious Thor does not get new powers any more than Magneto or Apocalypse does.
These guys have formidable defenses, he is not "literally killing" and beating them unconcious easily, by a long shot. In fact, "mere" physical force is probably the worst way to go against these guys. What did Thor`s hammer charge into Apoc do the last time? Oh, that`s right. Nothing!
Originally posted by Mshinu
Please not the holding back argument. I expect it from supes and spidey fanboys but not Thor. A serious Thor does not get new powers any more than Magneto or Apocalypse does.These guys have formidable defenses, he is not "literally killing" and beating them unconcious easily, by a long shot. In fact, "mere" physical force is probably the worst way to go against these guys. What did Thor`s hammer charge into Apoc do the last time? Oh, that`s right. Nothing!
The holding back argument is very valid as pertains to Thor because the fact of the matter is Thor doesnt go around trying to kill every opponent he engages...nor does he let lose with everything he's got against most opponents...
As for killing Magneto, you have got to be dreaming if he think Thor cant kill him with attacks that'll bypass Magneto's defenses...
Does Magneto have defenses against spiritual attack? Nope...soul suck and Magneto is dead...permanently.
Do you really think Magneto's force field will keep out a God Blast? Nope...it'll go straight through that force field and kill him...period.
If Thor uses his hammer to absorb Magneto's magnetism and then unleases the anti-force on Magneto (think about what he did to the Thanos clone) what do you think will happen!? Will Magneto live? Hell no...he dies...period.
As for Apoc, I truly believe a prolonged physical beating will be enough to KO him...and from there he could kill him at any time...