Magneto/Apocalypse vs Thor

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you not see the scans I posted? What happened in those scans? Did Thor die?

Not impressed. Could he? Possibly. Will he? I doubt it. Will it do anything significant? I highly doubt it.

Once again, not impressed. A going all out Thor has taken a line up and faced foes more impressive than this.

I saw the scans, and also saw that Bloodaxe did not use his axe, but instead used his fists to punish Masterson Thor.

Thor has on many occasions been lacerated, by objects of lesser damage yield than what Magneto can muster. What about Apocalypse's presence on the battlefield?

I'm not going to debate power for power with you or claim that either of these guys are stronger than Thor. What I will stress however is that this team has the powerset to not only defeat Thor, but to also bring him under thrall.

Power and strength isn't everything, after all steel cuts water, but in the end it is the water that destroys the steel, young grasshopper. 🙂

Originally posted by Stoic
I saw the scans, and also saw that Bloodaxe did not use his axe, but instead used his fists to punish Masterson Thor.

Thor has on many occasions been lacerated, by objects of lesser damage yield than what Magneto can muster. What about Apocalypse's presence on the battlefield?

I'm not going to debate power for power with you or claim that either of these guys are stronger than Thor. What I will stress however is that this team has the powerset to not only defeat Thor, but to also bring him under thrall.

Power and strength isn't everything, after all steel cuts water, but in the end it is the water that destroys the steel, young grasshopper. 🙂

Then I think you should look over those scans one more time. Do it carefully. If you still don't get it, maybe I'll be kind enough to explain what's actually on the page right infront of you.

Many occasions eh? How about you name a few instances? What about it?

That's smart of you. What I will stress is that Thor's power set is more than sufficient to defeat these two and put them under his thrall. These two aren't beating Thor if he gets serious and goes all out. However they should be capable of beating a regular Thor.

😐

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then I think you should look over those scans one more time. Do it carefully. If you still don't get it, maybe I'll be kind enough to explain what's actually on the page right infront of you.

Many occasions eh? How about you name a few instances? What about it?

That's smart of you. What I will stress is that Thor's power set is more than sufficient to defeat these two and put them under his thrall. These two aren't beating Thor if he gets serious and goes all out. However they should be capable of beating a regular Thor.

😐

Apocalypse has neural nodes that can penetrate Thor's nervous system, and make him his pet. Magneto has the power to subdue Thor for the time needed for Apocalypse to use his more exotic powers. Thor would neither have the time or speed to stop both of their assaults. This is why they would win a majority if we are going by the character of all opponents involved in this battle.

Does Thor have a greater strength feat than this: http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength31327.jpg?

Yes.

Originally posted by Stoic
Apocalypse has neural nodes that can penetrate Thor's nervous system, and make him his pet. Magneto has the power to subdue Thor for the time needed for Apocalypse to use his more exotic powers. Thor would neither have the time or speed to stop both of their assaults. This is why they would win a majority if we are going by the character of all opponents involved in this battle.

So I take it you've actually taken the time to look over the scans carefully and understood them? Shocking.

Please post scans of his neutral nodes penetrating someone of Thor's level.

Magneto can only subdue Thor if Thor allows him to. The team can only defeat Thor if he allows them to. If Thor wants to win, he will. Unfortunately he limits himself to a great extent. It's as simple as that.

Oh, so we're going by their actual character and not what their capable of now are we? Because if we go by the latter, they won't even be able to harm a hair on Thor's head or touch him based on Mjolnir's defensive capabilities.

Like I said, the team wins. On average. At least I hope they can. I'm assuming this isn't current depowered Magneto.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes.

So I take it you've actually taken the time to look over the scans carefully and understood them? Shocking.

Please post scans of his neutral nodes penetrating someone of Thor's level.

Magneto can only subdue Thor if Thor allows him to. The team can only defeat Thor if he allows them to. If Thor wants to win, he will. Unfortunately he limits himself to a great extent. It's as simple as that.

Oh, so we're going by their actual character and not what their capable of now are we? Because if we go by the latter, they won't even be able to harm a hair on Thor's head or touch him based on Mjolnir's defensive capabilities.

Like I said, the team wins. On average. At least I hope they can. I'm assuming this isn't current depowered Magneto.

Can you post it Rage.Of.Olympus?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Can you post it Rage.Of.Olympus?

Thor resists the gravimetric pull akin to that of a Neutron Star and breaks free.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsNeutronStar1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsNeutronStar2.jpg

Thor performs a feat of unquantifiable strength as he through sheer will power and muscle literally overpowers and turns back the wheels of the World Engine while not at full strength.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorworldengine4.jpg
Note: What makes this feat so impressive is besides being empowered by an incredibly powerful engine constructed by the Death God Seth, it is also powered by the World Tree Yggdrasil. Yggrdasil is the Axis Mundi or Cosmic Axis; it exists in all planes of reality, connects all the worlds and it holds the cosmos together.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor73.jpg
Tampering and unleashing its power literally warps all of reality, and if not careful it can destroy all of creation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg

I'm assuming your looking for raw strength feats on a large scale. I think scenes where he stalemates Kurse or breaks through Celestial armor when the Odin Destroyer could not are more impressive than the Serpent feat personally.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Scans or issue number please.

Where in that particular issue did you see Apocalypse easily handling Thor? Granted, we might have different definitions.

Magneto separates Thor from his hammer, traps it in a forcefield, prevents Thor from getting to that force-field, and has Apocalypse ass-rape him, Deliverance style.

Magneto's force field isnt overpowering the enchantment on Mjolnir that causes it to always return to Thors hand; if a f**king Elder God (Set to be exact) couldnt keep Mjolnir from returning to Thors hand, then no way in hell is Magneto going to do it...

Originally posted by Philosophía
Magneto separates Thor from his hammer, traps it in a forcefield, prevents Thor from getting to that force-field, and has Apocalypse ass-rape him, Deliverance style.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Magneto separates Thor from his hammer, traps it in a forcefield, prevents Thor from getting to that force-field, and has Apocalypse ass-rape him, Deliverance style.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where in that particular issue did you see Apocalypse easily handling Thor? Granted, we might have different definitions.

In addition, he talked down to and showed no fear against the God of Thunder.

Originally posted by Lord S
He sent Thor flying to the building across the street, and was unaffected by anything Thor did to him; including a direct two-handed assault using Mjolnir.

In addition, he talked down to and showed no fear against the God of Thunder.

How do you know it was Apocalypse and said attack did not damage Thor at all? How do you know how that single blast affected him?

That wasn't an assault. Thor flew out of the building and kept on flying until he struck Apocalypse. He didn't take it with a smile on his face either.

Here's their entire interaction:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6c851b89561318
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6ba76d89561328
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d939ab89561354
http://www.imagebam.com/image/effecb89561666
http://www.imagebam.com/image/fd871689561684
Thanks to Guy.

That was not Apocalypse easily handling Thor. I just noticed that Apocalypse seems to be protected by some type of energy. And don't forget about the Horseman assisting him.

So what? That's a laughably silly argument. If Thor talks down and shows no fear to Celestials, where does that place him in the hierarchy of power using your logic?

Team easily.Perfect powerset to take down thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How do you know it was Apocalypse and said attack did not damage Thor at all? How do you know how that single blast affected him?

That wasn't an assault. Thor flew out of the building and kept on flying until he struck Apocalypse. He didn't take it with a smile on his face either.

Here's their entire interaction:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6c851b89561318
http://www.imagebam.com/image/6ba76d89561328
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d939ab89561354
http://www.imagebam.com/image/effecb89561666
http://www.imagebam.com/image/fd871689561684
Thanks to Guy.

That was not Apocalypse easily handling Thor. I just noticed that Apocalypse seems to be protected by some type of energy. And don't forget about the Horseman assisting him.

So what? That's a laughably silly argument. If Thor talks down and shows no fear to Celestials, where does that place him in the hierarchy of power using your logic?

Unless Thor decided to go for a little stroll while Avengers HQ was under attack, it's safe to say he was thrown out with authority. It's also safe to say that it was Apocalypse that threw him out.

Thor's two-handed flying assault did nothing but push Apocalypse back a few inches. Nothing else he did had any affect on Apoc.

Not saying there was a clear-cut winner, but Apoc had an easier time against Thor than Thor did against Apoc.

Originally posted by Lord S
Nice scans...though you conveniently forgot to post the first couple of pages of that issue...where Thor was sent flying and crashing into the building across the street.

Unless Thor decided to go for a little stroll while Avengers HQ was under attack, it's safe to say he was thrown out with authority. It's also safe to say that it was Apocalypse that threw him out.

Thor's two-handed flying assault did nothing but push Apocalypse back a few inches. Nothing else he did had any affect on Apoc.

Not saying there was a clear-cut winner, but Apoc had an easier time against Thor than Thor did against Apoc.

I didn't conveniently forget anything. There:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/25e7d989561299
Thanks to Guy.

I didn't post the above scan as it has absolutely no relevance. For all we know, Apocalypse and one of his horseman sent Thor flying with a surprise attack (Which actually seems likely if you consider the last two pages of the previous issue had them teleporting into the presence of surprised Avengers.)

How do you know? You didn't see his reaction afterwards. He certainly didn't take that attack with a smile. This is typical Bendis fight choreography. A bunch of random brawls happening mostly off panel. He jewed us out on another potentially great match up.

I don't see how you can actually come to that conclusion. The two spent the time mostly off panel.

Jewed them out?Whats that supposed to mean?

"Jewed us out". What do you think that's supposed to mean? I'm pretty sure Bendis is Jewish. I recall him making light of the fact that he was Jewish and should be the last person writing a Nazi worshiped God who worked with Hitler once or something similar.