Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The holding back argument is very valid as pertains to Thor because the fact of the matter is Thor doesnt go around trying to kill every opponent he engages...nor does he let lose with everything he's got against most opponents...As for killing Magneto, you have got to be dreaming if he think Thor cant kill him with attacks that'll bypass Magneto's defenses...
Does Magneto have defenses against spiritual attack? Nope...soul suck and Magneto is dead...permanently.
Do you really think Magneto's force field will keep out a God Blast? Nope...it'll go straight through that force field and kill him...period.
If Thor uses his hammer to absorb Magneto's magnetism and then unleases the anti-force on Magneto (think about what he did to the Thanos clone) what do you think will happen!? Will Magneto live? Hell no...he dies...period.
As for Apoc, I truly believe a prolonged physical beating will be enough to KO him...and from there he could kill him at any time...
Those uber-attacks requires some concentration, Mags can easily go invisible and create a holographic double, teleport trough a wormhole, or rip the hammer away. Even toss him around like a ragdoll like he has done to both Thor and Herc in the past. He certainly has way to deal with Odinsson and his tricks.
A prolonged beating on Apoc, a teleporter? Even if that went down, Poccy`s durability/malleability and shielding would let him take far less damage than he would deal out himself.
Together they whup his ass, only by getting careless would they loose (oh I think I will monologue for a while).
Originally posted by DamborgsonThe fact that thor is a god, as in an alien from another dimension, and magneto is a mutant native of earth means nothing. There are mutants who could solo thor's entire bloodline with a single thought. lol at the galactus reference and yes, magneto would absorb his ligthning just fine, he'd be better off resorting to other types of attacks such as soulsuck.
okay dont believe it. Dont believe that the god of thunder with a planet shattering, weather controlling, magical hammer can one shot a genetic mutation. Thor has hit so hard his hammer dazed juggernaut even with his full shield on and he was being amped by other magical energies. He has one shotted silver surfer and caused extreme pain to galactus. Magneto cannot hold up to a blow where Thor is actually trying to hurt him. The fact that he is fighting to opponents would also make him want to even the odds quicker.
Regardless, CIS is on by default and thor loses here.
Originally posted by StoicThor has broken the through the magnetic pull of neutron star. He can break magnetos effect. He one shotted grog the god slayer. He can take magneto. Apocalypse would be a problem but not enough for Thor to lose.
He wouldn't be oneshotted by Thor, and to add to this, Thor would have to hold out against Apocalyse too! Not happening. These are two major hitters. One can hold Thor in an steel prison reinforced by magnetic force, and the other can curb his butt with future tech. Thor would lose.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That depends on what you mean by mind rape. Moondragon has been able to influence and control Thor to an extent -he ended up resisting it- but I don't think she has outright mind raped him.One thing I'm pretty certain of is this, Apocalypse ain't beating Thor through telepathy.
So, who is the most powerful telepath that Thor was resisted?
Originally posted by TheTyrant
So, who is the most powerful telepath that Thor was resisted?
Probably Moondragon with the Mind Gem. Thor had some amazing feats of will power in Blood and Thunder. He also outperformed in terms of mental defenses when the Stranger attacked the Avengers with a mind storm or something similar.
What stops Magneto from driving shards of metal through Thor's body if we're going to go with a no holds barred battle?
I was also under the impression that Thor had to invoke the soul suck which takes precious time, that he would not have if dealing with Magneto and Apocalypse.
What is this DBZ? Well if that's the case neither of these guys would just stand idly by and say " Uhm gorsh, I guess we should stand here and, uhm let Thor cast our souls into oblivion".
Originally posted by Stoic
What stops Magneto from driving shards of metal through Thor's body if we're going to go with a no holds barred battle?
You mean besides Thor's durability and defenses? Please don't start a no holds barred battle. Thor would destroy this team in such a state of mind. CBR style debating will not favor your side.
Originally posted by Stoic
I was also under the impression that Thor had to invoke the soul suck which takes precious time, that he would not have if dealing with Magneto and Apocalypse.What is this DBZ? Well if that's the case neither of these guys would just stand idly by and say " Uhm gorsh, I guess we should stand here and, uhm let Thor cast our souls into oblivion".
Thor zaps his opponent. He draws out their soul. That's the extent of it. It would pretty damn easy to get himself all the time he wants. A simple vortex to protect himself or make him intangible/invisible along with intended target.
CBR style debating is silly like that.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
where does it stated that uru has metallic Oreos in it?
Uru Ore.: Just the word ore is indicative that it has mettalic properties. It was forged, therefore it had to be melted down. When was the last time that you ever heard a weapon smith forging dirt into a weapon with no mettalic properties? It wouldn't be possible because, there would be no cohesive properties without an alloy to bind the molecules together. In other words Mjolnir would fall apart.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean besides Thor's durability and defenses? Please don't start a no holds barred battle. Thor would destroy this team in such a state of mind. CBR style debating will not favor your side.Thor zaps his opponent. He draws out their soul. That's the extent of it. It would pretty damn easy to get himself all the time he wants. A simple vortex to protect himself or make him intangible/invisible along with intended target.
CBR style debating is silly like that.
I'm not a member of CBR.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean besides Thor's durability and defenses? Please don't start a no holds barred battle. Thor would destroy this team in such a state of mind. CBR style debating will not favor your side.Thor zaps his opponent. He draws out their soul. That's the extent of it. It would pretty damn easy to get himself all the time he wants. A simple vortex to protect himself or make him intangible/invisible along with intended target.
CBR style debating is silly like that.
Are you saying that Thor's body can not be punctured? Then why did the Crusader drive a sword through him to the hilt? Why doesn't he just stand there and allow Bloodaxe to swing his axe hitting him directly?
Originally posted by Stoic
Are you saying that Thor's body can not be punctured? Then why did the Crusader drive a sword through him to the hilt? Why doesn't he just stand there and allow Bloodaxe to swing his axe hitting him directly?
When did I say that? Thor's body is resistant to being pierced. To the point I highly doubt Magneto tossing metal at him would do anything.
In the Crusader fight Thor's powers were fluctuating due to the fact that the sudden appearances of worshipers had caused him doubt himself. It was a battle of faith and Thor's lack of faith caused him to lose the first encounter. There was a reason why everybody was shocked that Thor was bleeding -including Thor himself who blamed it on some unknown wizardry- and even his strength seemed to be failing him.
This is actually the scene that most suggests Thor has a dynamic power level regulated by his mind.
So you want examples of the Blood axe eh?
Bloodaxe himself pounds away with his axe continuously on a depowered Masterson Thor’s face, and although his receives a bruise from the blunt force damage, he is not cut or anything of the like.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsBloodaxe8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsBloodaxe9.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When did I say that? Thor's body is resistant to being pierced. To the point I highly doubt Magneto tossing metal at him would do anything.In the Crusader fight Thor's powers were fluctuating due to the fact that the sudden appearances of worshipers had caused him doubt himself. It was a battle of faith and Thor's lack of faith caused him to lose the first encounter. There was a reason why everybody was shocked that Thor was bleeding -including Thor himself who blamed it on some unknown wizardry- and even his strength seemed to be failing him.
This is actually the scene that most suggests Thor has a dynamic power level regulated by his mind.
So you want examples of the Blood axe eh?
Hold on a second, are you saying that if Thor stood in one spot and allowed Bloodaxe to come down with his axe on Thor's head that Thor would sustain no damage? I don't think so. Thor would die.
Magneto has held up an entire asteroid with his powers, and you don't believe that he would be able to pierce Thor's flesh? Come on now! Plus he would have the aid of Apocalypse! Thor is a badass but not that badass.
Originally posted by Stoic
Hold on a second, are you saying that if Thor stood in one spot and allowed Bloodaxe to come down with his axe on Thor's head that Thor would sustain no damage? I don't think so. Thor would die.Magneto has held up an entire asteroid with his powers, and you don't believe that he would be able to pierce Thor's flesh? Come on now! Plus he would have the aid of Apocalypse! Thor is a badass but not that badass.
Did you not see the scans I posted? What happened in those scans? Did Thor die?
Not impressed. Could he? Possibly. Will he? I doubt it. Will it do anything significant? I highly doubt it.
Once again, not impressed. A going all out Thor has taken a line up and faced foes more impressive than this.
