Originally posted by marwash22
Superman 1 million vs. SSJ4 Gogeta.seriously, don't even nod this, i just wanna see if any DBZ fanboys actually think 1million loses.
Depending on the level of threat Superman 1 million is. Like I said before, Frieza was considered a universal threat and frieza is boo boo compared to Gogeta.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
(1) That was filler.
(2) Goku needed Piccolo's help and both of them had to push themselves up with Ki blasts because the bus was too heavy for them to carry normally. Also a fully loaded bus is just around 14-15 tons.
(3) That's actually a hilariously low showing that puts them below guys like Booster Gold so I have no idea why you'd tout it. Again filler and thus non-canon.
Goku and picollo one handed the bus and I agree, it was a low showing but again, they have feats putting them above the 100 ton range. Nappa ripping through planes like Candy puts him above that level.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor would pwn Buu in multiple ways
In your blind opinion. Thor wouldnt see buu and Thor should get one shotted by buu. Make a raditz vs Thor battle but take away thor hammer and energy blast. Raditz would DESTROY Thor. Now put buu in thor place. Take away his energy blast and flight and Raditz blast wouldnt even tickle buu.
If Thor is on Buu level, I am pretty sure he can beat Raditz without the hammer, dont you?
Yeah right.
Originally posted by carver9Lolwut?
Goku and picollo one handed the bus and I agree, it was a low showing but again, they have feats putting them above the 100 ton range. Nappa ripping through planes like Candy puts him above that level.
Ripping apart a plane puts you at 100 ton strength? So many problems here...
Firstly: No, at 100 ton strength you can basicly twist solid steel into string, this is not a class 100 feat.
Secondly: Goku is superior to Nappa in every way, and later struggles with what the creators went out of their way to state is 40 tons.
Thirdly: the aforementioned occurence happens much later in the series, and is more current and therefore more valid than a feat which is a few years older.
Originally posted by carver9You are delusional Raditz was nothing Thor would oneshot him. Thor has exotic powers to beat Buu if worse comes to worse he could just take his soul
In your blind opinion. Thor wouldnt see buu and Thor should get one shotted by buu. Make a raditz vs Thor battle but take away thor hammer and energy blast. Raditz would DESTROY Thor. Now put buu in thor place. Take away his energy blast and flight and Raditz blast wouldnt even tickle buu.If Thor is on Buu level, I am pretty sure he can beat Raditz without the hammer, dont you?
Yeah right.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lolwut?Ripping apart a plane puts you at 100 ton strength? So many problems here...
Firstly: No, at 100 ton strength you can basicly twist solid steel into string, this is not a class 100 feat.
Secondly: Goku is superior to Nappa in every way, and later struggles with what [b]the creators went out of their way to state is 40 tons.
Thirdly: the aforementioned occurence happens much later in the series, and is more current and therefore more valid than a feat which is a few years older. [/B]
Like I said before and will continue to tell you, Goku punching power puts him over the 100 ton range. Stop using that feat as credit when we all know that the ki planet contains intense gravity. That could have been more than the amount of weight that was speeched about in that scene and again, its pointless since Goku as a child lifted more.
Originally posted by iceman24567
You are delusional Raditz was nothing Thor would oneshot him. Thor has exotic powers to beat Buu if worse comes to worse he could just take his soul
LOL, first thing, how is Thor going to hit Raditz, LOL, second thing, Thor isnt Tanking raditz blast that destroyed mountains, third, Thor isnt one shotting Raditz even IF he hits him (which he will not be able too). Make the thread, Raditz vs Thor without his hammer and exotic powers.
Raditz should easily get a 10/10
Originally posted by jalek moye
Frieza was only considered a universal threat in the sense he could travel around destroying planet by planet till they were all gone and no one at the time thought he would be stoppe imo. Not the way we tend to use universal threat
When did they say in the story that frieza was only a universal threat because he could fly around in space?
Takira stated that Cell could have destroyed the solar system. Was he lying about his character?
Originally posted by Omega VisionSo fillers are non canon?Goku was carrying a 10 ft thick tree that was like 100 ft tall if that is a feat.
(1) That was filler.
(2) Goku needed Piccolo's help and both of them had to push themselves up with Ki blasts because the bus was too heavy for them to carry normally. Also a fully loaded bus is just around 14-15 tons.
(3) That's actually a hilariously low showing that puts them below guys like Booster Gold so I have no idea why you'd tout it. Again filler and thus non-canon.
Did you even read my post about gogeta?
Originally posted by carver9
It was mentioned more than once that he was a universal threat. What type of threat is Darkseid? Planetary? Now prove it (even though I think he is one, I would still love proof).
Frieza was a planetary threat.
Originally posted by carver9
In your blind opinion. Thor wouldnt see buu and Thor should get one shotted by buu. Make a raditz vs Thor battle but take away thor hammer and energy blast. Raditz would DESTROY Thor. Now put buu in thor place. Take away his energy blast and flight and Raditz blast wouldnt even tickle buu.If Thor is on Buu level, I am pretty sure he can beat Raditz without the hammer, dont you?
Yeah right.
Apparently Radditz>Celestials now.
Originally posted by carver9
When did they say in the story that frieza was only a universal threat because he could fly around in space?Takira stated that Cell could have destroyed the solar system. Was he lying about his character?
He showed he could blow up plantes but nothign close to any universl level attacks.
He didn't show it or anything close to that so it's not really usable but even if he did, Frieza didn't show any solar system destroying attack yet he could supposedly destroy the universe when Cell can't?
Originally posted by iceman24567Explain
Thor would pwn Buu in multiple ways
Originally posted by Omega VisionIf you are the most powerful person in the universe you are a universal threat.At the time freiza was one of the most powerful in his universe.Therefore he was a universal threat.
Frieza wasn't close to being a Universal threat.
@Carver
The only thing that would even give raditz a chance against thor is his speed.Picoloo said he is faster then the speed of light but we both know thats not true.However he is fast and that is his only advantage.And even then thor probably has higher speed then raditz.Thor>>>>>>>>>raditz in every way.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Explain If you are the most powerful person in the universe you are a universal threat.At the time freiza was one of the most powerful in his universe.Therefore he was a universal threat.
If there was a Universe inhabited entirely by flies would the strongest fly automatically be a Universal threat?
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou mean can he destroy the universe?No way in hell.I thought you were talking about killing like all life or something.Freiza was a threat to all life in the universe.Not the universe itself.Never.
THat's awful logic.If there was a Universe inhabited entirely by flies would the strongest fly automatically be a Universal threat?
Bye.See you guys tomorrow.