WWH vs Despero

Originally posted by Stoic
Since we're supposed to go with the characters at their greatest moments has anyone forgotten the mere footstep that nearly tore the entire eastern seaboard off?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Both Grundy and Shaggy Man have shown to be fast. Like Doomsday. Not Flash fast, but fast enough to tag Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hold on, the opening post did specify this as Virtue and Vice Despero right?

If it didn't, and we're using the most recent versions....

The original post doesn't specify, but I could have sworn it originally said V&V Despero.

Even if D can't take this physically, his telepathy should make this a lock. The Martian being casually mind screwed puts Despero up there with the best..

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Both Grundy and Shaggy Man have shown to be fast. Like Doomsday. Not Flash fast, but fast enough to tag Superman.

Are you using them tagging Superman in itself as evidence of their speed?

If that's the case:

World War Hulk tagged the Sentry. The Sentry can fly at light speed.

The Hulk has some speed feats under his belt.

I can use other bricks like Konvict for an example.

Anyone who thinks Superman isn't getting tagged by Green Scar in a fight hasn't been reading Superman comics.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you using them tagging Superman in itself as evidence of their speed?

If that's the case:

World War Hulk tagged the Sentry. The Sentry can fly at light speed.

The Hulk has some speed feats under his belt.

I can use other bricks like Konvict for an example.

Anyone who thinks Superman isn't getting tagged by Green Scar in a fight hasn't been reading Superman comics.

Well, they have tagged the Flash who was going at super speeds, so...

Originally posted by Stoic
The Green Scar version of the Hulk has surpassed any strength feat that Despero has ever mustered. I keep hearing how it takes the Hulk too much time to amp to earth breaking levels and beyond, but his time on Sakaar proves the contrary, he is seen lifting and then shifting the weight of an entire continent, when one of his Warbound buddies taunts him. This took all of what? 10 seconds or less? This talk about the Hulk taking 5-20 minutes to become strong enough to defeat an enemy is absolutely incorrect.

Since we're supposed to go with the characters at their greatest moments has anyone forgotten the mere footstep that nearly tore the entire eastern seaboard off?

I'm not entirely sure about Despero being able to dig into WWHulks brain, as two very powerful telepaths were sent packing in their attempts to do so, but I'm willing to bet that WWHulk would resist Despero's psychic assaults.

There is nothing in canon that limits Despero from attacking the Hulk both physically and psionicly at the same time.

Speed and strength that could drop Superman, Captain Marvel, and Wonder Woman with ease; coupled with psi powers that crumpled the Manhunter, is enough to KO WWH.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman would get knocked out. So would Captain Marvel.

They do not have superior durability than Sentry. Hercules would have been killed in four punches and WWH wasn't going as nearly all-out as he was against Sentry. Sentry took far more, and kept goading him on for more. Neither Superman, nor Captain Marvel are going to be wearing a sh1t-eatin grin, "Ah. That's it."

Personally, I consider Hulks win over Sentry PIS... The character was ridiculously durable before Siege ruined him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well, they have tagged the Flash who was going at super speeds, so...

There's a problem with using the Flash as a reference for speed. If their isn't a rate of speed given when they tag him, the feat is worthless.

I hate to break it to people, but the Flash doesn't zoom around at light speed. Shit, I doubt he breaks the sound barrier in a alot of his appearances.

Honestly, all Konvict needed to do was stomp the ground and thunder clap to get rid of him. As a Flash fan, it hurts to admit it, but that's simply how it is with him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A footstep where he was trying to stop his power from destroying the world. That was World Breaker Hulk holding back. People always forget this.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman would get knocked out. So would Captain Marvel.

They do not have superior durability than Sentry. Hercules would have been killed in four punches and WWH wasn't going as nearly all-out as he was against Sentry. Sentry took far more, and kept goading him on for more. Neither Superman, nor Captain Marvel are going to be wearing a sh1t-eatin grin, "Ah. That's it."

Tell it like it is dogg, I couldn't agree more.

I never said he goes light speed, but he's fast enough to say Grundy has some sort of enhanced reflexes. Same with SM in his original appearance.

The Hulk has enhanced reflexes as well.

SM? Who does that stand for? Shaggy Man?

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Lets notforget that that isn't out of Superman's power and he was shit against VandV despero. IN Trinty Despro finds his original body and is more powerful than in VandV and in Superman Batman where he got put down with heat vision. So a weaker Despero owns G herald levelees who dog pile him. If this where tyrant vs. WWH in a fist match Tyrant would get the nod evem tho he did less Physically than Despero.

Did Despero have any noticable feats in Trinity?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Hulk has enhanced reflexes so there.

SM? Who does that stand for? Shaggy Man?

Never said he didn't.

Shaggy Man.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Lets notforget that that isn't out of Superman's power and he was shit against VandV despero. IN Trinty Despro finds his original body and is more powerful than in VandV and in Superman Batman where he got put down with heat vision. So a weaker Despero owns G herald levelees who dog pile him. If this where tyrant vs. WWH in a fist match Tyrant would get the nod evem tho he did less Physically than Despero.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There's a problem with using the Flash as a reference for speed. If their isn't a rate of speed given when they tag him, the feat is worthless.

I hate to break it to people, but the Flash doesn't zoom around at light speed. Shit, I doubt he breaks the sound barrier in a alot of his appearances.

Honestly, all Konvict needed to do was stomp the ground and thunder clap to get rid of him. As a Flash fan, it hurts to admit it, but that's simply how it is with him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman would get knocked out. So would Captain Marvel.

They do not have superior durability than Sentry. Hercules would have been killed in four punches and WWH wasn't going as nearly all-out as he was against Sentry. Sentry took far more, and kept goading him on for more. Neither Superman, nor Captain Marvel are going to be wearing a sh1t-eatin grin, "Ah. That's it."

WWH KO's Superman and Captain Marvel?!

I think you're reaching badly here.

Both Superman and Marvel hit WWH more often and more powerfully.

That usually equals a win in combat.

I know, no one here thinks the Hulk in any form can take Superman, WW,PG,LB,HM,and CM all dog piling him and win. This was a weaker Despero in Lex Luthor's body. We all do realize Despero found his original stronger body in Trinity or some time before Trinity.

And didn't Trinity happen after the Batman/Superman incident?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman holding back would not be breaking off the Eastern seaboard. I'm happy to look at scans that show his original body is physically superior to his Vice & Virtue incarnation. That's going a bit too far.

Let's not forget that Depsero can TAKE punishment as well. Remember, he can regenerate and heal. He got his HEAD cut off from Starro a being with the strength of galaxies. Eat that WW Hulk.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
I know, no one here thinks the Hulk in any form can take Superman, WW,PG,LB,HM,and CM all dog piling him and win. This was a weaker Despero in Lex Luthor's body. We all do realize Despero found his original stronger body in Trinity or some time before Trinity.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
WWH KO's Superman and Captain Marvel?!

I think you're reaching badly here.

Both Superman and Marvel hit WWH more often and more powerfully.

That usually equals a win in combat.

Not really.

More powerfully? You're really measuring greatest WWH punch vs greatest Superman punch?

Which is why WWH would win.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Despero's original Body was powered by Pytar.