Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Inverse ninja law. Same spirit as World War Hulk, except WWH was proven to be that much more insanely formidable than past incarnations. They'd each get beat down. None of those opponents are going to endure the beating Sentry took.
Captain Marvel did.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For just about every advantage Despero has, you can rightly name a proven attribute for WWH that blunts said advantage. The only thing I'm seeing here is that people give Despero the absolute benefit of the doubt on his beatdowns given to characters that are rife with inverse ninja law -- especially those having to do with his pure physicality. And yet, with WWH who literally was the strongest incarnation of any Hulk ever -- and spent an entire year building up his motivations, unparalleled anger, and vengeance -- people almost unilaterally whine about supposed jobbing and wank.[B]He was amped to that level specifically. That's his specific powerset, "Madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets." Why is it so hard to accept? Get over it, people.
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That has always been true.
What is in question is the consistency in the speed and degree in which the Hulk's strength is amplified.
The Hulk can't get stronger while he's unconscious after being overwhelmed by a being who has superior strength at their base levels.
LOL at the inverse Ninja law. Despero talks shit about the leaguers later and says he's beaten them before. They aren't that powerful Despero is not a team wrecker, he's a JLA wrecker. Big difference. He whips hulks ass. Lets not forget he has TK and TP. He can batter hulk with mental and physical attacks. He's faster and has teleporting. He can simply teleport into the sun while holding on to hulk and leave him there. Or BFR the Hulk. Oh and aptain Marvel has been turned inside out by Imperiex. Yes_ he an take much more punidhment that Sentry took. As if sentry's dumb ass literally flying into the hulks fist is what any of the leaugers would do.Oh, Despero can also pull a Jericho and simply inhabit Hulk's body.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
LOL at the inverse Ninja law. Despero talks shit about the leaguers later and says he's beaten them before. They aren't that powerful Despero is not a team wrecker, he's a JLA wrecker. Big difference. He whips hulks ass. Lets not forget he has TK and TP. He can batter hulk with mental and physical attacks. He's faster and has teleporting. He can simply teleport into the sun while holding on to hulk and leave him there. Or BFR the Hulk. Oh and aptain Marvel has been turned inside out by Imperiex. Yes_ he an take much more punidhment that Sentry took. As if sentry's dumb ass literally flying into the hulks fist is what any of the leaugers would do.Oh, Despero can also pull a Jericho and simply inhabit Hulk's body.
He's also shown matter manipulation.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynTimes when Hulk gets knocked out before enjoying his amping are few and far between. And with WWH, it just didn't happen. None of the characters you mentioned are going to be hitting WWH so hard that he wouldn't be enjoying a concomitant amp. Not even all-out Sentry or out-of-control Zom Strange managed that.
That has always been true.What is in question is the consistency in the speed and degree in which the Hulk's strength is amplified.
The Hulk can't get stronger while he's unconscious after being overwhelmed by a being who has superior strength at their base levels.
Originally posted by Omega VisionNah. He just came back from being obliterated by magic and the Molecule Man.
Did Sentry ever endure getting turned inside out?Captain Marvel did.
He's a magical being. Good for him.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
LOL at the inverse Ninja law. Despero talks shit about the leaguers later and says he's beaten them before. They aren't that powerful Despero is not a team wrecker, he's a JLA wrecker. Big difference. He whips hulks ass. Lets not forget he has TK and TP. He can batter hulk with mental and physical attacks. He's faster and has teleporting. He can simply teleport into the sun while holding on to hulk and leave him there. Or BFR the Hulk. Oh and aptain Marvel has been turned inside out by Imperiex. Yes_ he an take much more punidhment that Sentry took. As if sentry's dumb ass literally flying into the hulks fist is what any of the leaugers would do.Oh, Despero can also pull a Jericho and simply inhabit Hulk's body.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For just about every advantage Despero has, you can rightly name a proven attribute for WWH that blunts said advantage. The only thing I'm seeing here is that people give Despero the absolute benefit of the doubt on his beatdowns given to characters that are rife with inverse ninja law -- especially those having to do with his pure physicality. And yet, with WWH who literally was the strongest incarnation of any Hulk ever -- and spent an entire year building up his motivations, unparalleled anger, and vengeance -- people almost unilaterally whine about supposed jobbing and wank.He was amped to that level specifically. That's his specific powerset, "Madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets." Why is it so hard to accept? Get over it, people.
Even at this day and age when you have access to a Hulk respect thread, people still cling to the base level argument. Even against World War Hulk. Wow.
Green Scar's damage soak is simply to ridiculous to put him down solely with physical blows. Strange was literally punching holes in him and he was tanking it. He'd amp past Despero before he manges to put him down which I doubt he can with Green Scar's healing factor.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Times when Hulk gets knocked out before enjoying his amping are few and far between. And with WWH, it just didn't happen. None of the characters you mentioned are going to be hitting WWH so hard that he wouldn't be enjoying a concomitant amp. Not even all-out Sentry or out-of-control Zom Strange managed that. Nah. He just came back from being obliterated by magic and the Molecule Man.He's a magical being. Good for him.
Cap marvel can amp his stats. As was show against a being who had the JLA's powers. So he could take on Sentry or Hulk, if he wanted to.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Even at this day and age when you have access to a Hulk respect thread, people still cling to the base level argument.
Not me. I love Hulk. We've had debates in the past and he's one of my FAV characters. However, he'd lose to Despero. Especially if you give him all his powers.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Times when Hulk gets knocked out before enjoying his amping are few and far between. And with WWH, it just didn't happen. None of the characters you mentioned are going to be hitting WWH so hard that he wouldn't be enjoying a concomitant amp. Not even all-out Sentry or out-of-control Zom Strange managed that.
Superman is demonstrably stronger than any character WWH fought during that storyline. There is enough canon to establish that fact.
While the canon isn't as plentiful, by logical extension through many of his fights with Superman and others, Marvel is on par with Superman in terms of strength.
Given their advantages in speed the power of their punches are only enhanced. In addition, Hulk is going to be getting hit a lot more than they are in the exchanges.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Guess we don't care about current version jobber Despero? vinUnless he's had another appearance that negates him getting one-shotted by Superman... ? He must have, right?
Oh, I'm aware of that instance. Batman/Superman, right? Anyway, non jobbing correctly written Despero as was shown many times in the past would eventually take out the Hulk. He has too many powers at his disposal.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not me. I love Hulk. We've had debates in the past and he's one of my FAV characters. However, he'd lose to Despero. Especially if you give him all his powers.
Depends on what you mean by all his powers. Different incarnations have had different abilities. At times he seems to be nothing more than a brick with telepathy.
Despero isn't putting down Hulk physically. Not this Hulk.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes good for him that Hulk wouldn't be able to put him down.
Are you really using the inside out feat for Captain Marvel as evidence that he can't be put down physically?