Cross-Genre Thread #4: Deathstroke vs Master Chief

You pretty much have to use the books because you can't tell anything about Master Chief in the games as far as stats are concerned.

well i guess ill start off the discussion officially by listing some feats for the chief.

the chiefs armor is outright resistant to most forms of ballistic weaponry and was shown in halo 3 to survive falling through the atmosphere and crash landing on the ground, all without a scratch to it (though the gel inside locked up to prevent injury to the chief). the shields can take hits from super heated plasma and physical assaults from beings who can flip over cars. im not familiar with deathstroke so im curious to know if he'd be able to penetrate the chiefs suit at all?

speedwise, spartans have 20 millisecond reflexes and the chief was stated in the fall of reach to see bullets in slow motion, and according to mendez in the fall of reach a spartan can sprint at up to 55 miles an hour! i remember reading somewhere that deathstroke can tag the flash? thats pretty impressive so i might give him the edge in speed.

strength wise i think it should be no contest. chiefs most obvious and impressive feat of strength: flipping a 66 ton tank.

how much of MC's stats are tied to his suit? Is he class 60 without the suit?

Also, can the suit be forcibly removed?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well i guess ill start off the discussion officially by listing some feats for the chief.

the chiefs armor is outright resistant to most forms of ballistic weaponry and was shown in halo 3 to survive falling through the atmosphere and crash landing on the ground, all without a scratch to it (though the gel inside locked up to prevent injury to the chief). the shields can take hits from super heated plasma and physical assaults from beings who can flip over cars. im not familiar with deathstroke so im curious to know if he'd be able to penetrate the chiefs suit at all?

speedwise, spartans have 20 millisecond reflexes and the chief was stated in the fall of reach to see bullets in slow motion, and according to mendez in the fall of reach a spartan can sprint at up to 55 miles an hour! i remember reading somewhere that deathstroke can tag the flash? thats pretty impressive so i might give him the edge in speed.

strength wise i think it should be no contest. chiefs most obvious and impressive feat of strength: flipping a 66 ton tank.

The other way is with his sword which he was able to slice a car clean in half with:
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=adventuresofsuperman580p10.jpg
And slice Metamoprho in half:
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=outsiders019014.jpg
As for strength, yeah Master Chief wins no contest but DS is still pretty strong. Here's him breaking glass that was designed to withstand missiles:
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=FoE_deathstroke_017.jpg

I can say from the start that if deathstroke is hit with any plasma gun or plasma grenade hes going down.The problem with them is Deathstroke is fast and plasma weapons are slow.

I see deathstroke as being faster and more agile but chief is like 40(having been trained since he was six)and is an expert with any weapon on the field.He also has his armor and shields which really can take more then anything DS can dish out.

Chief 8/10

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I can say from the start that if deathstroke is hit with any plasma gun or plasma grenade hes going down.The problem with them is Deathstroke is fast and plasma weapons are slow.

I see deathstroke as being faster and more agile but chief is like 40(having been trained since he was six)and is an expert with any weapon on the field.He also has his armor and shields which really can take more then anything DS can dish out.

Chief 8/10

He's walked away from a serious car-crash without injury, tanked Starfire's starbolts, been punched by Aquaman with only mild damage, taken a laser to the chest, absorbed multiple gunshots without falling, and even survived a point blank explosion from a grenade.

Deathstroke actually has more experience than Chief, his experience as a soldier/mercenary goes all the way back to the Korean war, 60 years worth of military, black-ops, merc, and assassin work fighting everything from Chinese conscripts to Herald-class Superheroes.

Tactically there's no comparison, Chief is good but no way could he match Slade when it comes to on-the-fly thinking.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Deathstroke has a shot at surviving a hit from a plasma grenade provided he doesn't actually get stuck and its just a proximity explosion.

He's walked away from a serious car-crash without injury, tanked Starfire's starbolts, been punched by Aquaman with only mild damage, taken a laser to the chest, absorbed multiple gunshots without falling, and even survived a point blank explosion from a grenade.

Deathstroke actually has more experience than Chief, his experience as a soldier/mercenary goes all the way back to the Korean war, 60 years worth of military, black-ops, merc, and assassin work fighting everything from Chinese conscripts to Herald-class Superheroes.

Tactically there's no comparison, Chief is good but no way could he match Slade when it comes to on-the-fly thinking.

Chief could probably replicate them all(not sure about starfire)but I mean he has gone hand-to-hand with an elite,been trained ruthlessly and beaten since he was 6,take greandes,plasma bolts,gun-shots,the works and thats without shields.

Okay hes got more experience.Hard to beat over 30 years though...at that point its just kinda repetitive.

Not sure about that.Chief has every war medal except prisoner of war,is practically the best leader of all the spartans,biologically enchanced to be the perfect solider upgrading his mind as well.What as DS done as far as on the spot tactics?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
With his HF yes he can take a proximity hit but not a direct one.

Chief could probably replicate them all(not sure about starfire)but I mean he has gone hand-to-hand with an elite,been trained ruthlessly and beaten since he was 6,take greandes,plasma bolts,gun-shots,the works and thats without shields.

Okay hes got more experience.Hard to beat over 30 years though...at that point its just kinda repetitive.

Not sure about that.Chief has every war medal except prisoner of war,is practically the best leader of all the spartans,biologically enchanced to be the perfect solider upgrading his mind as well.What as DS done as far as on the spot tactics?

It doesn't become "repetitive" when the last twenty or so of those years have been spent fighting Metas and Heralds. Master Chief simply can't compare to Deathstroke's range of experience. When Superman needed a leader for a strike force against Warworld he chose Deathstroke because of DS's background as a soldier and commando.

DS has used his tactics to elude and outmaneuver entire teams of Superheroes. Check out his respect thread and see how many times he's gotten out of jams just by thinking on his feet.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Fighting Elites hand to hand is really chump change compared to taking on the Teen Titans on a regular basis and going toe to toe with (an admittedly holding back) Wonder Woman for a short while.

It doesn't become "repetitive" when the last twenty or so of those years have been spent fighting Metas and Heralds. Master Chief simply can't compare to Deathstroke's range of experience. When Superman needed a leader for a strike force against Warworld he chose Deathstroke because of DS's background as a soldier and commando.

DS has used his tactics to elude and outmaneuver entire teams of Superheroes. Check out his respect thread and see how many times he's gotten out of jams just by thinking on his feet.

And chief is the best leader out there too.Hes been able to forumlate a plan to take out hundreds of convenant ships and multiple escape plans in seconds.Hes almost McGyver.I'm not saying hes batter then DS i'm saying that he can at least match him.

Read above.Give chief the same powerset but he still retains his mind and he'd be able to replicate it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
The elite.Physically I can see them besting people like cap and batman easily.

I am curios to know, on what makes you think this.

I don't know to much of the Halo franchise. But I do know on what an Elite looks like.

is this samus vs iron man?

^ would have been a better discussion. Doesn't seem like too many people have read those Halo books so no one can really argue a side.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just out of curisoity have you read any of the halo books?Spartans can go H2h with elites then they are pretty much that.The elite.Physically I can see them besting people like cap and batman easily.DS is slade right?If so(and going by the anime which my not be right)then it only seems he can fight the TT by prep.But going h2h with even a holding back WW is impressive.

And chief is the best leader out there too.Hes been able to forumlate a plan to take out hundreds of convenant ships and multiple escape plans in seconds.Hes almost McGyver.I'm not saying hes batter then DS i'm saying that he can at least match him.

Read above.Give chief the same powerset but he still retains his mind and he'd be able to replicate it.

If Spartans beat Batman or Cap it would be because Spartans have 60 ton strength, not because of skill. In this case having superior strength isn't enough given that DS has held his own against Class 100+s.

Battlefield tactics isn't the same as on the fly thinking, which is what he'll need to beat Deathstroke.

Originally posted by amnesia
is this samus vs iron man?

Originally posted by marwash22
^ would have been a better discussion. Doesn't seem like too many people have read those Halo books so no one can really argue a side.

The same can be said for peole who don't read Iron Man comics and don't he's got like 3000 gadgets attached to his twenty different types of armor. 😐

The same can be said for most comic book characters.

man i been playing halo for a long time, and never knew chief had 60 ton strength.

Originally posted by Etna
I am curios to know, on what makes you think this.

I don't know to much of the Halo franchise. But I do know on what an Elite looks like.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Going h2h with Elites means nothing when compared to going h2h with Wonder Woman.

If Spartans beat Batman or Cap it would be because Spartans have 60 ton strength, not because of skill. In this case having superior strength isn't enough given that DS has held his own against Class 100+s.

Battlefield tactics isn't the same as on the fly thinking, which is what he'll need to beat Deathstroke.

Spartans don't have 60 ton strength...i'd put them as 20 tons max.But yeah I would put chief(better then your average spartan)in the same skill range as cap and batman.Can you post scans of these class 100 fights?

Like I just posted he did those.He was able to forumlate escape strategies and create massive damage in minimal time due to him being the perfect solider on top of on the fly thinking.The UNSC created them to be the best of the best of the best(thats reakky what it says in the books).Every part of them is enchanced.

Where is the back up to these claims of MC having 60 ton strength?

I'm assuming it's the fact that he can lift tanks. A scorpion tank is 66 tons.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Where is the back up to these claims of MC having 60 ton strength?