Cross-Genre Thread #4: Deathstroke vs Master Chief

Started by Omega Vision7 pages

Originally posted by Etna
Omega Vision sounds the most convincing here.

I wanna ask something about that Bo-Staff and the helicopter thing. Can't a rocket launcher instantly kill master chief in the game?

The way that bo staff looked, destroying that choppa. In that one picture,
It seems as strong if not stronger then those rockets in the game. Which destroy those big ships called Banshees or Ghost..? Instantly as well


Yeah I'd say the bo-staff blast is comparable to the rocket launcher.

Though considering MC can apparently survive reentry every time MC's shield or armor gets damaged by sustained fire from a .22 SMG is a case of PIS.

Also remember that blunt force can apparently deplete the shields as well.

Originally posted by Etna
Omega Vision sounds the most convincing here.

I wanna ask something about that Bo-Staff and the helicopter thing. Can't a rocket launcher instantly kill master chief in the game?

The way that bo staff looked, destroying that choppa. In that one picture,
It seems as strong if not stronger then those rockets in the game. Which destroy those big ships called Banshees or Ghost..? Instantly as well

Its a really big rocket but yes.
Originally posted by amnesia
Omega is always right.
No thats Mr. Masters....and me 😄
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah I'd say the bo-staff blast is comparable to the rocket launcher.

Though considering MC can apparently survive reentry every time MC's shield or armor gets damaged by sustained fire from a .22 SMG is a case of PIS.

Also remember that blunt force can apparently deplete the shields as well.

I remember when they survived a fall from miles.It is a much higher damage then a bullet but this is why they lived.

They are all experts on damage taking so they knew exactly how to fall.
The leader spartan was giving commands the second they needed to be done to survive.
Like 8 of them had broken bones,someof them couldn't walk and 4 of them died.

Yes some survived but its not like it was a walk in the park.So no taking damage from a .22 SMG is not PIS.

A lot of blunt force but yet.

I still see a problem with either of them(slade on the more side)being hit.Chief can take more damage but it more likely to get hit.

Slad can't take quite as much damage but is harder to hit.

But when using regular guns can he dodge bullets?Plasma moves slow but not bullets.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah I'd say the bo-staff blast is comparable to the rocket launcher.

Though considering MC can apparently survive reentry every time MC's shield or armor gets damaged by sustained fire from a .22 SMG is a case of PIS.

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yea the gameplay damage of guns isnt really the canon. Hes pretty much bullet proof.

Slades staff should be higher enough to be more effective then most of the weapons that the game characters carry though

"Falling from Space" I keep reading this feat over and over in this topic. Its getting old. But i guess if thats most of what Master Chief has done, then i guess MCs side can't help it.

It sounds like MC space suit has a crap load "Shock Absorbent". But I believe this is different from bullet penetrating.

Originally posted by Black bolt z

They are all experts on damage taking so they knew exactly how to fall.

How can you be an expert at taking damage?

Is there a video of MC Falling expertly?

Originally posted by Etna
"Falling from Space" I keep reading this feat over and over in this topic. Its getting old. But i guess if thats most of what Master Chief has done, then i guess MCs side can't help it.

It sounds like MC space suit has a crap load "Shock Absorbent". But I believe this is different from bullet penetrating.

How can you be an expert at taking damage?

Is there a video of MC Falling expertly?

Sorry that came out wrong.

They have pretty much been trained in everything.A spartan(all of them there)knew the exact right position to minimize damage when falling from great heights.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Sorry that came out wrong.

They have pretty much been trained in everything.A spartan(all of them there)knew the exact right position to minimize damage when falling from great heights.

Is that actually stated somewhere?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is that actually stated somewhere?
In the book...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
In the book...

Which one? There are like five of them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which one? There are like five of them.
Its in the first hundred pages of the "first strike" halo book.

slade.

hes referring to "first strike", when fred and linda and a bunch of other spartans fell from a destroyed pelican and landed.

im referring to this scene. "how far did he fall? two kilometers, easy." the damage soak is insane.

There's a key difference between shooting down a helicopter and COMPLETELY vaporizing one. Slade's staff blast did the latter.

im not so sure. it wasnt "vaporized" because the ba-room! implies an explosion, and the explosion could have been caused by the fuel tank exploding. would it be possible for you to provide some other instances where he used the staff? id like to see if it has that same affect on all objects.

Green Arrow seemed to believe that while Slade's travel speed was much slower than the Flash his reflexes and ability to react and make the right move at the right time are better.

Its backed up by multiple cases of him outmaneuvering/outreacting speedsters like Superman, Captain Marvel Jr, Flash, and Kid Flash.

Of course if any of those people were genuinely going all out Slade would be a statue. Fortunately speedsters rarely go all out, otherwise all their comics would last a page.

yes! i feel conflicted on those feats though... i feel like DC was trying to showcase how deadly slade is but at the same time copped out. if theyre holding back their speed, then how much are they holding back? it doesnt necessarily matter cause i think slades got the speed to tag the chief but johns no slouch in speed either. as i mentioned before to his perception bullets move in slow motion, and hes shown good enough reflexes to slap a missile out of the air that was fired from a jet fighter (he also tanked the ensuing explosion, although he didnt take the brunt of the explosion.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel

im referring to this scene. "how far did he fall? two kilometers, easy." the damage soak is insane.

That didn't look like he expertly fell, thats for sure. 😛

I am going to accuse this video and how MC lived, as PIS. The A.I. women, (Cortana?) she basically said that the reason he lived was "Luck"

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
hes referring to "first strike", when fred and linda and a bunch of other spartans fell from a destroyed pelican and landed.

im referring to this scene. "how far did he fall? two kilometers, easy." the damage soak is insane.

im not so sure. it wasnt "vaporized" because the ba-room! implies an explosion, and the explosion could have been caused by the fuel tank exploding. would it be possible for you to provide some other instances where he used the staff? id like to see if it has that same affect on all objects.

yes! i feel conflicted on those feats though... i feel like DC was trying to showcase how deadly slade is but at the same time copped out. if theyre holding back their speed, then how much are they holding back? it doesnt necessarily matter cause i think slades got the speed to tag the chief but johns no slouch in speed either. as i mentioned before to his perception bullets move in slow motion, and hes shown good enough reflexes to slap a missile out of the air that was fired from a jet fighter (he also tanked the ensuing explosion, although he didnt take the brunt of the explosion.


Is that a trailer?

Trailers aren't canon.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Is that a trailer?

Trailers aren't canon.

Its not a trailer. Its the intro to the Halo 3 game
name of the video said "Halo 3 Intro"

Originally posted by Etna
Its not a trailer. Its the intro to the Halo 3 game
name of the video said "Halo 3 Intro"

Hmm...k. That's true.

Still him getting knocked unconscious would count as a forum win, so while it is very impressive it isn't as impressive as if he had simply brushed himself off immediately after impact.

Originally posted by Etna
That didn't look like he expertly fell, thats for sure. 😛

I am going to accuse this video and how MC lived, as PIS. The A.I. women, (Cortana?) she basically said that the reason he lived was "Luck"


Yeah it reminds me a bit of the scene in the new I-Can't-Believe-Its-Not-Indiana-Jones movie where Indy survives a nuke by locking himself inside of a lead-lined fridge.

As I said above though him surviving but being KOed wouldn't count as a forum win, because if we want to start comparing "WTF he survived that!" feats Deathstroke has him beat.

Deathstroke has actually come back from the dead several times.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah it reminds me a bit of the scene in the new I-Can't-Believe-Its-Not-Indiana-Jones movie where Indy survives a nuke by locking himself inside of a lead-lined fridge.
oh god... that scene

anyways, hes right, while the suit could definitely keep his bones and stuff from suffering, his internal organs would still be turned to complete mush

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Hmm...k. That's true.

Still him getting knocked unconscious would count as a forum win, so while it is very impressive it isn't as impressive as if he had simply brushed himself off immediately after impact.

the point of showing the scene was to show that the armor itself didnt get even scratched from it, thus i dont think slade can pierce it 😛

but regardless, him being KO'd by it only matters if the kinetic force that slade dishes out with every hit is equal to the kinetic force of falling through the atmosphere and then two kilometers to the ground while wearing thousand pound armor.

edit- you guys dont seem to realize that john is not just a regular human who wears super armor, like iron man. hes a cyborg. his body was mutated and operated on so his internals are all super human in strength and durability. clicky!

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
the point of showing the scene was to show that the armor itself didnt get even scratched from it, thus i dont think slade can pierce it 😛

And as I said before, piercing and shock impact damage is two different things.
I can throw a pillow from an airplane, and it'll land just fine. But that doesn't mean it can survive a shot from a bullet, or a rocket launcher.

What does that have to do with her post? ermm