why do you continue to use Thor as your basis for arguing Superman's Strength?
Thor > Superman... in terms of physical strength. unless you're talking about PC Supes.
Can one of the Superman experts give me his greatest strength feat... lifting, not flying and pushing something. And not PC Supes. I'm damn sure it's not in excess of 500 million tons.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thors lightning>Regular lightning.I think your downplaying thor and upplaying DBZ characters but I mean freiza beating thanos?I have trouble seeing SS3 goku doing this.
Why cant frieza beat Thanos when everything that both have done, frieza is above him except durability wise?
Thanos would be hard pressed at even touching frieza with a fist or his blasts? Again, we have showings of frieza fighting so fast that it appeared as if time completely stopped.
Originally posted by marwash22
why do you continue to use Thor as your basis for arguing Superman's Strength?Thor > Superman... in terms of physical strength. unless you're talking about PC Supes.
Can one of the Superman experts give me his greatest strength feat... lifting, not flying and pushing something. And not PC Supes. I'm damn sure it's not in excess of 500 million tons.
Dude I said it in my post "I'm no Superman expert" 😬
But there is that time Superman fought Thor and held his ground 😖hifty:
Originally posted by carver9I wouldn't call freiza to be above him in strength,telepathic abilities,and senses.Thanos has cosmic awareness so...
Why cant frieza beat Thanos when everything that both have done, frieza is above him except durability wise?Thanos would be hard pressed at even touching frieza with a fist or his blasts? Again, we have showings of frieza fighting so fast that it appeared as if time completely stopped.
Blackbolt, fast forward this to 2 minutes and 8 seconds. Since we both know that frieza is faster than Thanos, him punching Thanos a mile shouldnt be hard to do since he will gain the first hit... the rest after this while Thanos is recovering from that punch could probably end the fight... Look at what frieza does.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I wouldn't call freiza to be above him in strength,telepathic abilities,and senses.Thanos has cosmic awareness so...
Why not strength? Thanos never displayed punching power like frieza.
Telepathic isnt working on frieza. Senses? What does that have to do with battling someone who output of power is on another level along with speed and other abilities?
Again, Thanos would be hard pressed at even seeing Frieza while fighting him.
Originally posted by Bentleyi understood. I'm asking one of the people who are, at least, self-proclaimed experts, if they could give me his greatest strength feat.
Dude I said it in my post "I'm no Superman expert" 😬
Originally posted by Bentley...and the time Joker beat the crap out of Sub Zero. 😖hifty:
But there is that time Superman fought Thor and held his ground 😖hifty:
Originally posted by carver9He easily manhandles people like drax and thor...
Why not strength? Thanos never displayed punching power like frieza.Telepathic isnt working on frieza. Senses? What does that have to do with battling someone who output of power is on another level along with speed and other abilities?
Again, Thanos would be hard pressed at even seeing Frieza while fighting him.
Yes they will.It has to do because he can sense that freiza charges a blast thanos can see it coming and teleport away.
Sheilds or omni-direction blast will work.
The Superman vs Goku battle is highly controversial and the closest thing we'll get to a official battle is the published battle in Wizard magazine.
It wasn't published by DC nor by Akira Toriyama, and it likely never will. But Wizard magazine had the rights for both Goku and Superman when publishing this article.
I'm not going to approach this in detail nor share my opinion. But the Superman vs Goku debate is among the most highly debated topics in cross universe battles and is far from settled.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
He easily manhandles people like drax and thor...Yes they will.It has to do because he can sense that freiza charges a blast thanos can see it coming and teleport away.
Sheilds or omni-direction blast will work.
HHHMMM, Vegeta used omni blast and it did nothing for him. He couldnt even touch frieza with it.
I dont care who Thanos has fought, that doesnt mean that he could prevent a blitz from frieza and it doesnt mean that he would see frieza during combat when we have showings of even people with super human site unable to see Frieza during combat.
Frieza would get through those shields given enough time and everything that I said, I was basing it off of Thanos without his shields. You do know that frieza have shields also.
Originally posted by Astner
The Superman vs Goku battle is highly controversial and the closest thing we'll get to a official battle is the published battle in Wizard magazine.It wasn't published by DC nor by Akira Toriyama, and it likely never will. But Wizard magazine had the rights for both Goku and Superman when publishing this article.
I'm not going to approach this in detail nor share my opinion. But the Superman vs Goku debate is among the most highly debated topics in cross universe battles and is far from settled.
Thanks, been a long time since I read it.
Originally posted by carver9
On basis that King Ki telepath is one of the best I have seen and he still feared frieza. Matter Manipulate, again, king ki's is one of the best that I have seen, even recreated his planet and he still had fear of frieza.
And King Kai has feats? Being the best in a certain universe doesn't give you free pass to compare with other universes. I don't recall any offensive telepathy in DB other than maybe some random hypnosis.
Originally posted by Bentley
And King Kai has feats? Being the best in a certain universe doesn't give you free pass to compare with other universes. I don't recall any offensive telepathy in DB other than maybe some random hypnosis.
Well you have it where babadi tried to get Vegeta and was mind attacking him but failed.
I also agree with the free pass thing and different universes but again, you have King Ki showing feats of communicating with numerous of people across the universe telepathically.
What is Thanos highest telepathic feat?
Originally posted by marwash22Yes.Thats not offensive TP.
didn't he communicate with the Z-fighters from clear across the galaxy, via TP?
Originally posted by carver9Thanos>Vegeta.The omni-blast is just to knock him off his feat.
HHHMMM, Vegeta used omni blast and it did nothing for him. He couldnt even touch frieza with it.I dont care who Thanos has fought, that doesnt mean that he could prevent a blitz from frieza and it doesnt mean that he would see frieza during combat when we have showings of even people with super human site unable to see Frieza during combat.
Frieza would get through those shields given enough time and everything that I said, I was basing it off of Thanos without his shields. You do know that frieza have shields also.
Yes he could
It would freiza a long time to break through his shields.
Originally posted by marwash22When Piccolo took off his white cape before he fought Radditz, Radditz was constantly scanning him and realized that his power level increased after he threw away his cape (which was claimed to be very heavy).
i do not recall, please explain where i am wrong.
Another example was Gohan as a child while he was captured in Radditz' capsule, Gohan got angry and Radditz' scouter gave him an increasing number, after that Gohan broke free out of the capsule and "headbutted" Radditz pretty strong.
Another time was after they Z group trained for the arrival of Nappa and Vegeta, Piccolo physicly (IIRC) killed several Saiba Men (plant warriors) which all were on Radditz level (1200).
On Namek, Piccolo fused with Neil and was able to physicly challange the 2nd form of Freezer
I would maybe agree that the biggest part of the amp via training is energy based but def. not all.
