Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes.Thats not offensive TP. Thanos>Vegeta.The omni-blast is just to knock him off his feat.Yes he could
It would freiza a long time to break through his shields.
Depending on what Vegeta you are talking about. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, Thanos is getting either one shotted or f***** up. Vegeta punches alone was so strong that it was destroying small mountains and his fist didnt even touch the mountains, it was just the after shocks from his punches.
How is Thanos>Vegeta when he isnt even>Frieza?
Originally posted by Parmaniac👆
When Piccolo took off his white cape before he fought Radditz, Radditz was constantly scanning him and realized that his power level increased after he threw away his cape (which was claimed to be very heavy).Another example was Gohan as a child while he was captured in Radditz' capsule, Gohan got angry and Radditz' scouter gave him an increasing number, after that Gohan broke free out of the capsule and "headbutted" Radditz pretty strong.
Another time was after they Z group trained for the arrival of Nappa and Vegeta, Piccolo physicly (IIRC) killed several Saiba Men (plant warriors) which all were on Radditz level (1200).
On Namek, Piccolo fused with Neil and was able to physicly challange the 2nd form of Freezer
I would maybe agree that the biggest part of the amp via training is energy based but def. not all.
I never said that Z-fighters didn't stronger as their power level escaltes... just that, the only thing a scouter does is project how much energy someone can emit. But I could be wrong about that.
Originally posted by marwash22
👆I never said that Z-fighters didn't stronger as their power level escaltes... just that, the only thing a scouter does is project how much energy someone can emit. But I could be wrong about that.
I'm sorry to say this but yeah, you are wrong. The higher your power level the faster, more durable, and stronger you are. This was proven during Goku and Picollo fight. Goku power level was 500 and Picollo was 450 and Goku was faster, stronger, and more durable than picollo and outright stomped him. Picollo had to resort to trickery to even be on Goku's level.
There are other instances like Recoome and Vegeta fight. Vegeta was in the 30k while Recoome ws 40K and Vegeta didnt stand a chance physically against Recoome.
Originally posted by carver9Yes thanos>freiza.
Depending on what Vegeta you are talking about. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, Thanos is getting either one shotted or f***** up. Vegeta punches alone was so strong that it was destroying small mountains and his fist didnt even touch the mountains, it was just the after shocks from his punches.How is Thanos>Vegeta when he isnt even>Frieza?
Thanos>SS2 vegeta.
I would put all SS2's as high herald,all SS3's at trans or low skyfather and all SS4's at abotu Odin level.
you're still not understanding what I'm saying. I already said that i agree that, when your power level goes up, you obviously get physically stronger, but the only thing a scouter measures, is energy (ki) projection.
"scouter's primary purpose is to calculate the individual power level or ki concentration of biological characters by converting the readings into numbers"... that's from the DB-wiki. Unless it's inaccurate, it backs me up, i think.
Originally posted by marwash22It measures much more then just kai output.Goku became much physically stronger when training with king ki and his power increased like 20 fold.
you're still not understanding what I'm saying. I already said that i agree that, when your power level goes up, you obviously get physically stronger, but the only thing a scouter measures, is energy (ki) projection.[b]"scouter's primary purpose is to calculate the individual power level or ki concentration of biological characters by converting the readings into numbers"
... that's from the DB-wiki. Unless it's inaccurate, it backs me up, i think. [/B]
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes thanos>freiza.Thanos>SS2 vegeta.
I would put all SS2's as high herald,all SS3's at trans or low skyfather and all SS4's at abotu Odin level.
Thats your opinion and again, you never gave a reason on why you think Thanos is>Frieza. Is it because of TP. I know you like Thanos and I like him as well, thats why I make threads of him fighting numerous of heralds and mid heralds but again, tell me the things that put him over frieza.
SS2's in my opinion is above high herald, again, my opinion. I can see a Super Sayain two punching holes in a lot of Heralds if it came to it.
Super Saiyan 3, I'm not even going there.
Originally posted by carver9The reason I put him there is because of his strength higher then the likes of thor and drax,he has TP that rivals moondragons,his durability has letten him take surfers strongest blasts like they were nothing,his character lets him kill people,he has easily tangled with people like odin who would decimate super sayians...etc.
Thats your opinion and again, you never gave a reason on why you think Thanos is>Frieza. Is it because of TP. I know you like Thanos and I like him as well, thats why I make threads of him fighting numerous of heralds and mid heralds but again, tell me the things that put him over frieza.SS2's in my opinion is above high herald, again, my opinion. I can see a Super Sayain two punching holes in a lot of Heralds if it came to it.
Super Saiyan 3, I'm not even going there.
Thanos would destroy the likes of freiza and take a solid majority against an SS2.An SS3 I would see thanos in an inch of death but winning.I mean...hes thanos.
Although an SS4 would destroy thanos and stalemate Odin.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
The reason I put him there is because of his strength higher then the likes of thor and drax,he has TP that rivals moondragons,his durability has letten him take surfers strongest blasts like they were nothing,his character lets him kill people,he has easily tangled with people like odin who would decimate super sayians...etc.Thanos would destroy the likes of freiza and take a solid majority against an SS2.An SS3 I would see thanos in an inch of death but winning.I mean...hes thanos.
Although an SS4 would destroy thanos and stalemate Odin.
I never said Thanos was weak, I know how powerful Thanos is and strength wise, he has as of yet to show the type of punching power frieza have and Thor and Drax havent either.
TP, I'll give you that.
Surfers blast, well, if I can say anything about tanking blast, Frieza has also tanked blast from an enraged Goku and again, Frieza tanked the spirit bomb that contained energy from everything in the solar system.
Power out-put, again, frieza using less than 1% of his power decimated a planet that was twice the size of earth. Do the math.
Frieza is far faster than Thanos. THe guy fought so fast that everything around him stopped. Rocks didnt even gain the moment or kinetic energy to hit the ground and he performed an entire fight scene.
Again, I dont see a reason on why you are giving Thanos a majority against Frieza and a Super Saiyan 2 would outright ANNIHILATE Thanos.
Originally posted by carver9Freiza is strong possibly a 100 tonner(95 at minimum)but hes no match for thanos physically.
I never said Thanos was weak, I know how powerful Thanos is and strength wise, he has as of yet to show the type of punching power frieza have and Thor and Drax havent either.TP, I'll give you that.
Surfers blast, well, if I can say anything about tanking blast, Frieza has also tanked blast from an enraged Goku and again, Frieza tanked the spirit bomb that contained energy from everything in the solar system.
Power out-put, again, frieza using less than 1% of his power decimated a planet that was twice the size of earth. Do the math.
Frieza is far faster than Thanos. THe guy fought so fast that everything around him stopped. Rocks didnt even gain the moment or kinetic energy to hit the ground and he performed an entire fight scene.
Again, I dont see a reason on why you are giving Thanos a majority against Frieza and a Super Saiyan 2 would outright ANNIHILATE Thanos.
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And that enraged goku blast wouldn't have destroyed thanos either.Pre-SS goku probably would have trouble putting down mid heralds.
It never said freiza was using less then 1% when he blew up planet vegeta.It said that when he was fighting goku.
Freiza is far far faster then thanos you have that.
No he wouldn't.Thanos would have trouble with SS2 but would still win.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Freiza is strong possibly a 100 tonner(95 at minimum)but hes no match for thanos physically.K
And that enraged goku blast wouldn't have destroyed thanos either.Pre-SS goku probably would have trouble putting down mid heralds.
It never said freiza was using less then 1% when he blew up planet vegeta.It said that when he was fighting goku.
Freiza is far far faster then thanos you have that.
No he wouldn't.Thanos would have trouble with SS2 but would still win.
So do you have scans of Thanos taking punches that was strong enough to send after shocks across a planet?
You are saying crazy stuff. Pre-SS Goku has more than enough power physically and also with his blast to take any Herald down.
Thanos isnt touching Frieza with his hands or his blast so tp is his best bet.
From what I have seen of both SS2 would destroy Thanos.
Originally posted by carver9Tanking punches from people like thor,drax and energy blasts from surfer like they were nothing.And these guys could easily do that.
So do you have scans of Thanos taking punches that was strong enough to send after shocks across a planet?You are saying crazy stuff. Pre-SS Goku has more than enough power physically and also with his blast to take any Herald down.
Thanos isnt touching Frieza with his hands or his blast so tp is his best bet.
From what I have seen of both SS2 would destroy Thanos.
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Yes he can.If hes so fast why did goku get him at all?Freiza isn't gonna blitz.
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I don't think any character in DBZ could take Thanos solo. Not even Kid Buu or SS3 Goku.
Frieza would get one-shot pimp smacked into oblivion if he tried taking on Thanos. Seriously Carver how can you actually believe that Frieza can beat Thanos when Silver Surfer (who would solo every character in the Frieza saga) can't beat him solo?
Originally posted by Omega VisionKid buu might beat thanos.Buu isn't really any more powerful then SS3 but its his reforming that makes him so tough.I don't see an answer to kid buu vs. Thanos as neither can really put the other down.
I don't think any character in DBZ could take Thanos solo. Not even Kid Buu or SS3 Goku.Frieza would get one-shot pimp smacked into oblivion if he tried taking on Thanos. Seriously Carver how can you actually believe that Frieza can beat Thanos when Silver Surfer (who would solo every character in the Frieza saga) can't beat him solo?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think any character in DBZ could take Thanos solo. Not even Kid Buu or SS3 Goku.Frieza would get one-shot pimp smacked into oblivion if he tried taking on Thanos. Seriously Carver how can you actually believe that Frieza can beat Thanos when Silver Surfer (who would solo every character in the Frieza saga) can't beat him solo?
No DBZ character is taking silver surfer solo talkless of thanos. Carver is delusional as usual.