Originally posted by PlacidityYou ripped apart shit. You are so caught up in the whole "ZOMG Tiwfags are fast!!!" thing you are blinded by it.
Posting the same reply even though I ripped it apart in my post means you are either really stupid or trolling, so which is it?
Last second to draw their saber and ignite it? So what? the Vamp will see them do it and change their course. At that point, the Jedi will no longer have a 3-4 second precog because the Vamp is only about half a second away from ripping his head off now? So what's the Jedi's next move? The Jedi saw the Vamp coming at him from the front in his precog, so he decides to draw his saber and turn on it at the last second. The Vamp sees the Jedi doing this just before he reaches him, THIS is when he changes his mind to speed around him and rip his head off from behind. Only at this point would a new precog come to the Jedi because it is only at this instance that the Vampire changes his mind/course. Again, the two are up very close together now, having another precog won't do shit since the Jedi will no longer be able to preemptively plan anything, the Vampire is already upon him.It's like talking to a kid with down's syndrome.....
Let's say there is a timer that starts at zero. At 0:00, the fight begins. If the Twivamps can reach a Jedi in one second, then the Jedi will sense when and where the attack wil come from 3-4 seconds before the fight even begins. If the Twivamp changes course at 0:01, the Jedi will know about it about three seconds before the fight starts. If the Twivamp decides to rush in, feint, and attack from another angle at 0:06, then the Jedi will know about it at 0:02. It's not that hard, you know.
Admit it, you lose... but you'll probably just post your same response and pretend I didn't just own you for n'th time.
Nah, Jedi battle precog wins it. Also:
Force push (which can encompass a wide area), force hold, slice slice slice, toss into lava. How ya like DEM apples? Hell, a Jedi could simply force push the Twivamp into the lava!!!! Ha!!!!
Gonna counter yeah didn't think so kthxbai.
[b]Hahaha, yea okay, you confirmed you are trolling.Hahahahahahaha K.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i guess jedi wins easily since its every jedi.. arent they like an army? i mean they did show various jedi's in the back ground even lil kids..
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, team SW, edited:Team Star Wars:
Darth Sidious
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Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)
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Ki Adi Mundi
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Everyone is ignoring the Fett's. They can fly, they have missiles and blasters, and flamethrowers.
Originally posted by Placidity
I hope you mean RJ's trolling/usual self.You should give your opinion. It would be nice to hear some from non SW fanboys.
Edit: Assuming you aren't one.
I have no opinion. I haven't read or watched anything to do with Twilight and never will so my opinion would be completely pointless.
I do think that using Jedi that were shown for fractions of a second on screen is a bit stupid though. Given that this forum is supposed to abide by the golden rule of "on screen feats only".
It's just amusing watching grown men argue about a film made for teenage girls.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You ripped apart shit. You are so caught up in the whole "ZOMG Tiwfags are fast!!!" thing you are blinded by it.It's like talking to a kid with down's syndrome.....
Let's say there is a timer that starts at zero. At 0:00, the fight begins. If the Twivamps can reach a Jedi in one second, then the Jedi will sense when and where the attack wil come from 3-4 seconds before the fight even begins. If the Twivamp changes course at 0:01, the Jedi will know about it about three seconds before the fight starts. If the Twivamp decides to rush in, feint, and attack from another angle at 0:06, then the Jedi will know about it at 0:02. It's not that hard, you know.
You think dealing with someone with down's is bad? Imagine dealing with RJ. Oh wait.
Yeah, anyway, you pretty much confirmed you lose.
0:00 Jedi Sees Vampire Snapping his neck in 4 seconds time (i.e 0:04). Jedi decides to equip lightsaber at last second.
0:01 Vamp runs in as seen in precog
0:02 Vamp still coming at him
0:03 Jedi equips lightsaber to stab Vampire at where he knows the Vampire will be in his precog
0:035 Vampire sees the Jedi doing this, and decides to speed around him to pull his head off.
No new precog will occur before this moment, because this is the moment the Vampire changes his mind.
0:035 Jedi sees the new precog, Vampire will attempt to speed around him.
At this point, the Vampire is only half a second away from him, and speeds around the Jedi.
0:04 Jedi knows what is about to happen, but is too slow to react. Vampire speeds around and yanks Jedi's head off.
Good game.
Originally posted by Nephthysdid they do that in the movie? i dont recall that at all..
Twivamps can dodge all of the above and throw a pebble so hard it'll likely bring them down (not penetrating anything though, Durasteel is 10,000 or so times harder than steel).
besides jedi's can block it easy laser fire and all or even stop it with the force..
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not even gonna comment on Alice. The slightest thing can change her vision. A Jedi sidestepping, Jasper farting, someone tripping, and the entire vision is shot.
While I think the Jedi still win, this is not correct at all. Alice's visions are far more set in stone than anything the Jedi's will ever be able to far-see. The Jedi's are subject to the same "changing future" as Alice is. Let's not forget that. It's just that Alice's is infinitely more advanced than the Jedi Far-Seeing ability is. The only flaw is Werewolves blocking her ability to see things. Other than that, her sight works almost perfectly. If it worked any better, she'd be borderline omniscient.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Speed......What difference does it make if the Twivamps are faster? The Jedi will know where the Twivamps will be before they get there. Wait, haven't I said that? Even the fattest, most out of shape Jedi, IF their precog was working, would be able to determine where and when he would be attacked. It's simple: Sense danger, extend lightsaber, hold on while it cuts. If the Jedi precog is working as it should, this isn't even open for debate. hell, the Jedi could be a buncha fatass Hutts and still win.
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Originally posted by Pwned
I dont hate Twilight in the slightest and i know the jedi willwinForce pull+momentum=impaled vampire
DDM your completly ignoring everything exceptyour own flawed logic
Nah, I've pwned every single argument that continues to get spammed. Since no one will listen, I gave up since this is a forum of twi-haters. 🙂
And your spelling really really sucks, man. Is it REALLY that hard to spell check your posts? Most modern browsers can spell check FOR you. Good God, man.
Originally posted by Placidity
No you don't get anything.Firstly, don't quote my post and pretend this addresses it because the main points were about Alec and Jane, and this doesn't present any defense against it so I guess you know Jedi will lose.
Vamps are too fast to be locked on by force pull. Jedi need to aim their hands at their target first.
By the time they notice a blurring vamp coming in the next thing they know is that their head is being ripped off.
Um speed is absolutely relevant even though you'd like to pretend its not. It's why someone like Flash can take Superman. If this were in the Comic Book forums, you'd all get ripped new assholes. Most people know that a substantial speed and reaction time advantage, along with ability to deal damage to the other opponent will mean a win every time.
You really don't get it. I'm trying to be civil with you, but this is really getting annoying.
The Jedi ignite their lightsabers - THE TWILIGHT VAMPIRES CAN'T STOP THIS (your analogy about Flash vs Superman is wrong, since Superman is arguably faster than Flash), unless if you're claiming that the Twilight Vampires can take down all the Jedi before the Jedi can react, which you haven't proven at all.
The Jedi Force pull the vampires. Again, your counter argument is BS since the Jedi have used the Force without using their hands.
The Jedi impale the vampires. Your claims about the Vampires hitting the Jedi first are BS since the Vampires will be held by the Force, which the Vampires can't counter.
The Jedi have a reaction time advantage because they have pre cognition. They'll know what the Vampires are going before it actually happens. All the Jedi need is one VERY small fraction of a second and the Vampires are done for.
Do you get it?
Your posts about Alice and company don't really matter when the Jedi use Force pull + lightsabers. Even if Alice forsees it, she won't be able to tell the others in time, and even if she somehow could they wouldn't be able to stop it. Knowing is half the battle, not the entire battle.
i dont have to i seen the movie not once in the movie did the vamps show or were shown to disappear beyond a human's ability see even if you use the slow camera action and speed effect are not enough to say they can, i have to point out that bella tracked and saw edward fighting just fine as well as keep up with the vamp baseball game watching them all interact..
which destroys the claim that they could move beyond a human's ability to see ala anne rice style..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i dont have to i seen the movie not once in the movie did the vamps show or were shown to disappear beyond a human's ability see even if you use the slow camera action and speed effect are not enough to say they can, i have to point out that bella tracked and saw edward fighting just fine as well as keep up with the vamp baseball game watching them all interact..which destroys the claim that they could move beyond a human's ability to see ala anne rice style..
Here's lies the problem, then: there are 3 movies, not just one.
And, just because you missed something doesn't mean these truths cease to exist, it means you still failed to grasp a concept. (The tree falling in the woods, riddle, comes to mind.)
And why would you make such a fallacious comparison to begin with? A trained force-wielder's perception is >>>> than a humans.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i've read the whole thread 🙁 🙂
I am ashamed that I took this "seriously" for as long as I did. weep