The phalanx has never been broken until I want to say . . . 1902 or 1905. In the Napoleonic Wars, it was known as the square. It was made obsolete when the introduction of the Maxim machine gun on the battlefield. A solid defense on 4 sides.
truejedi, a Jedi can deflect blasters, but can a Jedi/Jedi's stop over 1,000 arrows falling? An upper-tier like Luke probably emerge unscathed on the battled, but an average Jedi can't. Maybe, the Jedi would be victorious, but it would be a pyhric victory.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
truejedi, a Jedi can deflect blasters, but can a Jedi/Jedi's stop over 1,000 arrows falling? An upper-tier like Luke probably emerge unscathed on the battled, but an average Jedi can't. Maybe, the Jedi would be victorious, but it would be a pyhric victory.
Just send in the Masters, they should all have good enough TK to stop large amounts of arrows. Except Corran unfortunatly, but he could probably mind trick them to thinking he wasnt even there.
Against over 1,000 arrows falling? A volley is fired every 5 seconds, so it would be hard pressed for the Masters to stop every arrow from finding a target. While the archers are pinning the Masters down, the phalanx attacks and kills most of the Knights. Masters would probably survive, but like I said . . . it would be pyhric victory.
Sure thats a lot of arrows, but they only need to stop the few that are actually going to be a danger to them. You dont think a concentrated force push would render the arrows ineffective? Some Jedi can stop freakin blaster bolts with thier hands, which I assume travel much faster and can do more damage than an arrow. How many people are in a Phalanx that you actually believe are going to be able to take on 50 or so Jedi Knights who have a speed, strength, weapon, and usage of the force advantage?
Is this scenario in a open field? If not then the obvious counter to arrows, which Jedi will easily figure out, is to either get under something solid, or just break line of sight. I bed the Jedi's endurance can far outlast the romans.
TK tooling
Face it dude, the Romans would lose due to the fact that they are fighting people with unstoppable weapons and a supernatural force assisting them
Luke could shield them since i think it said this was the order in FOTJ........
Dont forget Uber-Jaden Korr who killed an ancient sith lord as a jedi knight and who had no powers whatsoever \./
Then theres Kyle who can use lightning with no problem...
And Luke.......
The Romans would think that Luke is Jupiter himself as soon as he shoots a bit of lightning
Originally posted by Darth TruculentYou do know that the seasoned Knights and Masters of Luke's Order can A.) dodge things faster than arrows, B.) block things faster than arrows, and c.) repulse things faster/heavier than arrows. These aren't well-trained warriors, they're well-trained warriors with control over a magical energy field that the Romans don't know about or understand. One display of god-like powers and swing of a cosmic killing light-sword and the pagan primitives who don't understand what a photon is will bow down in fear. Those who don't will run faster than they ever have before.
Against over 1,000 arrows falling? A volley is fired every 5 seconds, so it would be hard pressed for the Masters to stop every arrow from finding a target. While the archers are pinning the Masters down, the phalanx attacks and kills most of the Knights. Masters would probably survive, but like I said . . . it would be pyhric victory.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You do know that the seasoned Knights and Masters of Luke's Order can A.) dodge things faster than arrows, B.) block things faster than arrows, and c.) repulse things faster/heavier than arrows. These aren't well-trained warriors, they're well-trained warriors with control over a magical energy field [b]that the Romans don't know about or understand. One display of god-like powers and swing of a cosmic killing light-sword and the pagan primitives who don't understand what a photon is will bow down in fear. Those who don't will run faster than they ever have before. [/B]
But... but! Arrows! Phalanx! Romans! ahhh!
Sorry, I sort of made a spite thread. Luke or another powerful Jedi could probably solo. Maybe vs the United States would be more even, although in a war the Jedi would win quite easily; around 200 organized, well trained Jedi agents that are superior to even guys like Jason Bourne (who pretty much defeated the CIA) could easily cripple any modern government and would be virtually impossible to track down.
DT: the Jedi have a technology advantage, and they have the Force. Oh, and they're smarter and better trained as well.
Re: The New Jedi Order vs The Roman Empire
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall1. Which side is the far reaches of egypt? Furthest from the romans? you mean the Sahara? Good luck to them getting to the roman empire from there.
The NJO as of FOTJ is dropped off in the far reaches Egypt. Can they manage to defeat the Roman Empire? The Roman Emperor, who let's say is Nero, is somehow immediately alerted of the NJO and wants to eliminate them. The New Jedi Order has access to comlinks, datapads and other SW technology. To be fair, the Roman Empire gets an additional 1 million legionaries.
2. You haven't been fair at all here. Nero is not a strategist, in fact, nero is more towards the fall of the roman empire and is one of the more corrupt ass-wipes to ever be emperor. Probably even a bit insane. Give them Julius Caesar at his height of power.
3. 1 million legions? Do you realize how many this is? This is a billion troops. NJO are probably a dozen Jedi.
So here's how I see this going down.
1. Jedi die in the desert, hundreds of miles from any sort of water or civilization.
2. If they do get to the nile or something without dying by some miracle they have a few options.
These are the options.
a. Is rome allowed to prepare for them to arrive? is this an all out clash? If so, all 1 billion legionaires are waiting for them and they drown on corpses or get tired and die of spear wounds.
b. If rome has no idea they are there, they could covertly destroy nero and take the kingdom from the inside out. but then, how would 1 billion troops make this fair?
So, only one semi-contingency based on a lack of information in the scenario has them winning. they lose.
Re: Re: The New Jedi Order vs The Roman Empire
Much as I love to see Powers Hewhoknowsnothing in agony--and I do... the thought of misconstrued facts is just gross.
Originally posted by One Free ManThe Roman Empire encompassed the entire Mediterranean coastline, and dipped deep in to the Nile Valley.
1. Which side is the far reaches of egypt? Furthest from the romans? you mean the Sahara? Good luck to them getting to the roman empire from there.
Originally posted by One Free ManNero died in 68 AD. Romulus Augustus and his empire was ousted over 400 years later.
2. You haven't been fair at all here. Nero is not a strategist, in fact, nero is more towards the fall of the roman empire and is one of the more corrupt ass-wipes to ever be emperor. Probably even a bit insane. Give them Julius Caesar at his height of power.
Originally posted by One Free Man5.2 billion troops, but the point is... he said legionaries, not legions. But being as how the early imperial legions never numbered more than 30, 1 million men is a lot by comparison.
3. 1 million legions? Do you realize how many this is? This is a billion troops. NJO are probably a dozen Jedi.