Jak (Jak 3) and Link (OoT) vs Ratchet (Deadlocked) and Sora (KH2)

Started by MooCowofJustice14 pages

God damn it. I think I confused CoM with 358/2.

Vexen's ice is still < Ice Arrow.

I doubt it will... he's been frozen b4 and turned out just fine.(Vexan fight) BallodRaine also proved the Ice Titan's ice breath to be better than the ice arrow in my opinion.

He's been frozen by far inferior attacks and broken out in gameplay, never in a cutscene, and never by somethign like an ice arrow. The ice titan froze a small amount of lava enciircling Zeus over time, the ice arrow flash froze an active volcano.

Claiming somethign can "stop/reflect anything" is a no limit fallacy. 😐

MAgnega needs feats to stop Link from just raising his mirrorshielld while lifted, or shooting Ratchet.

Edit: Link's displayed multiple levels of magic resistance, and this spell doesn;t even function on bosses? >____> I don't see it even lifting Link. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sora could not block or reflect the inferior ice breath, he has no feats to suggest he could survive an ice arrow, it would kill him. 😐

Meh, feats?


Blocking air with a sword... hm..

Pulls in all but I think some large enemies and some bosses.(?) Doesn't matter if he raises his shield to it as his whole person is being raised up.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
BallodRaine

o.o well that's a new one.

Edit:
''Link's displayed multiple levels of magic resistance, and this spell doesn;t even function on bosses? >____> I don't see it even lifting Link.''
Sephiroth in KH2 is immune to all kinds of magic magic except for Reflect and Magnet. (And the Trinity Limit) Not effecting bosses is only gameplay like what most games do.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He's been frozen by [b]far inferior attacks and broken out in gameplay, never in a cutscene, and never by somethign like an ice arrow. The ice titan froze a small amount of lava enciircling Zeus over time, the ice arrow flash froze an active volcano.

Claiming somethign can "stop/reflect anything" is a no limit fallacy. 😐

MAgnega needs feats to stop Link from just raising his mirrorshielld while lifted, or shooting Ratchet.

Edit: Link's displayed multiple levels of magic resistance, and this spell doesn;t even function on bosses? >____> I don't see it even lifting Link. 😐 [/B]


I'm gonna play it your way now. 😐

Give me a feat for the ice arrow in OoT outside of gameplay... not WW, OoT. Should have caught this earlier. 😬

It works on Xemnas if I'm not mistaken.

Originally posted by BloodRain

o.o well that's a new one.
lol... sorry 😛

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Give me a feat for the ice arrow in OoT outside of gameplay... not WW, OoT. Should have caught this earlier. 😬

I caught that in like 3 seconds after looking at the thread once.

Magnet as a feat of moving a statue to its credibility I must point out.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I caught that in like 3 seconds after looking at the thread once.

Magnet as a feat of moving a statue to its credibility I must point out.


I'm deprived of sleep... leave me alone 😛

If u don't care to find it on youtube, post it for us. It happened in the Little MErmaid's World didn't it?

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
I'm gonna play it your way now. 😐

Give me a feat for the ice arrow in OoT outside of gameplay... not WW, OoT. Should have caught this earlier. 😬

It works on Xemnas if I'm not mistaken.

lol... sorry 😛

It's the same freakin' spell. 😐 Also, it actually damages everything you can use it on except Ganon. Freezing a volcano >>> That would kill the shit out of him. Like I said, I'm not even advocating it for how Link should fight, but I am telling you it would.

There's still no reason Link can't kill Ratchet before he shoosts, or reflect the mind control. Even whiel off the ground Link'll be fine, assuming it will even effect him.

Do KH2 Seph or Xemnas ever display resistance or immunity outside of gameplay? 😛

YouTube video

Magnet spell at work.

YouTube video

You see the statue he gives Ariel. He needed magnet to get it if I remember right. And the video description supports that.

Seph has the FF magic resistance/immunity stats going for him.

''Sorcerer:
A sorcerer. A high-ranking Nobody. Immune to magic, it attacks with invulnerable cubes.''

A strong Nobody literally made for magic combat and stated to be immune to magic is still effected by Magnet.

When she started singing I abandoned thread. >_>

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
When she started singing I abandoned thread. >_>

😆

Seriously though, the Atlantic world needs to die and burn in Hell. At least in the first one it involved actual fighting.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Seph has the FF magic resistance/immunity stats going for him.

''Sorcerer:
A sorcerer. A high-ranking Nobody. Immune to magic, it attacks with invulnerable cubes.''

A strong Nobody literally made for magic combat and stated to be immune to magic is still effected by Magnet.

KH Seph and FF Seph are seperate, obvious hyperbole and no-limit fallacy, and we've seen Seph effected by magic. So, uh. 😐 Magic that can move a big statue, but that's not exactly high scale.

Edit: Hm. Iron Boots? 131

The Sorcerer's more the point to my post.

Large and heavy with the weaker Maget spell, Magnega's lifting Link.

Edit: Iron boots? Puts Link in a slow state just less then what was wanted by Magnet making him a target to Sora's speed and Ratchets bomb.

Edit:..Then again it'd just work like the magnets in TP work.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's the same freakin' spell. 😐 Also, it actually damages everything you can use it on except Ganon. Freezing a volcano >>> That would kill the shit out of him. Like I said, I'm not even advocating it for how Link should fight, but I am telling you it would.

There's still no reason Link can't kill Ratchet before he shoosts, or reflect the mind control. Even whiel off the ground Link'll be fine, assuming it will even effect him.

Do KH2 Seph or Xemnas ever display resistance or immunity outside of gameplay? 😛

Nope, one Link got it from Guerudo's fortress, and one got it from the Great Fairy. You have no proof to say that its the same exact spell. For all we know the Great Fairy's could be greater than OoT's ice arrow.

Magnega works on most enemies, and Xemnas.... and a statue... it can and will work on Link.

I don't think anyone has ever tried using magic on them outside of gameplay, but Xemnas is the final boss. It works on him, and according to you from the last thread I was in, since it's a fight that you have to win in order to beat the game, it's cannon.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The Sorcerer's more the point to my post.

Large and heavy with the weaker Maget spell, Magnega's lifting Link.

Edit: Iron boots? Puts Link in a slow state just less then what was wanted by Magnet making him a target to Sora's speed and Ratchets bomb.

Edit:..Then again it'd just work like the magnets in TP work.

😆

Originally posted by BloodRain
The Sorcerer's more the point to my post.

Large and heavy with the weaker Maget spell, Magnega's lifting Link.

Edit: Iron boots? Puts Link in a slow state just less then what was wanted by Magnet making him a target to Sora's speed and Ratchets bomb.

Edit:..Then again it'd just work like the magnets in TP work.

It'd have to be as strong as the magnets in TP, which is never demonstrated. Link only needs the speed of his arms in this fight, anyway. Link also has magic resistance, so, it's VERY debatable it's lifting Link.
Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Nope, one Link got it from Guerudo's fortress, and one got it from the Great Fairy. You have no proof to say that its the same exact spell. For all we know the Great Fairy's could be greater than OoT's ice arrow.

Magnega works on most enemies, and Xemnas.... and a statue... it can and will work on Link.

I don't think anyone has ever tried using magic on them outside of gameplay, but Xemnas is the final boss. It works on him, and according to you from the last thread I was in, since it's a fight that you have to win in order to beat the game, it's cannon.


Negatory. I've been lenient letting movie references slide, but, you're gonna make a hilariously wrong claim, so I'll go ahead and point out a correct one. The movie versions and the KH versions are GOOD OLD FASHIONED SEPERATE. 😄

Ariel? Still half fish? 😮

YEah. You can't have it both ways, especially not when the ice arrows are the ice arrows, and where you get them means dick. 😐 Ice arrows > volcanoes, and therefore Sora's life.

Xemnas have any magic resistance feats outside gameplay? 😛 Also, Iron boots. Also, useless spell is useless, Link has a shield, and can shoost, and Sora's melee based.

Do you need to use Magnet to win? You need to reflect Ganon's magic to win. Does Xemnas have any magic resistance feats? Ganon certainly does.

ALSO:
7. Canon feats vs. non-canon feats - I leave this solely up to the decision of the thread-starter. I do expect people to adhere to the decision made for that particular thread. For the purposes of this forum, only feats seen in the actual video games are considered canon. Any other sources (movies, comics, novels, etc) are considered non-canon here.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, he can't.

Except he can.

Link & Jak have no way to counter black holes, liquid Nitrogen, nuclear explosions, weapon rays that can turn them into sheep or ducks, etc. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
ALSO:
7. Canon feats vs. non-canon feats - I leave this solely up to the decision of the thread-starter. I do expect people to adhere to the decision made for that particular thread. For the purposes of this forum, only feats seen in the actual video games are considered canon.[b] Any other sources (movies, comics, novels, etc) are considered non-canon here.
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He is the thread starter?

Link can likely kill Ratchet before he shoosts, and reflect or avoid most of those. Dunno anything about Jak.